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Glendale
A R I Z O N A
MINUTES
AUDIT COMMITTEE
CITY HALL, 4th FLOOR CONF. ROOM
5850 W. GLENDALE AVE.
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85301
JUNE 7, 2023
2:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Councilmember/Chair Jamie Aldama called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Jamie Aldama, Councilmember, Chairperson
Ian Hugh, Councilmember
Raymond Malnar, Councilmember
Irene Avalos, Member
Kevin Phelps, City Manager
Levi Gibson, Budget & Finance Director
Absent: Rusty Simmons, Member
Also Present: Mike Kingery, Independent Internal Audit Program Manager
Nancy Mangone, Deputy City Attorney
Vicki Rios, Assistant City Manager
Jamsheed Mehta, Assistant City Manager
Feroz Merchhiya, Chief Information Officer, Innovation & Technology
Arlene Chemello, 3rd Party Contractor, Innovation & Technology
Michelle Woytenko, Director, Field Operations
Daren Frank, Deputy Director, Field Operations
Nicholas DiPiazza, Presiding City Judge, City Court
Layne Herber, 3rd Party Contractor, City Court
Connie Heimgartner, Supervisor, City Court
Celeste Brown, Accountant Senior, City Court
Jeff Bratcher, Program Manager, Organizational Performance Office
Paul Ashe, President, Securance Consulting (Guest)
Christopher Goeman, Audit Manager, Heinfeld Meech (Guest)
3. CITIZEN COMMENTS
No members of the public were present. No comments.
4. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
Councilmember Hugh motioned to approve the Audit Committee minutes of the
March 23, 2023, meeting as written; Member Avalos made the second. Motion
carried unanimously.
AYE: Councilmember, Chairperson Jamie Aldama
Councilmember Ian Hugh
Councilmember Raymond Malnar
Member Irene Avalos
Other: Member Rusty Simmons (ABSENT)
5. MOTION TO CALL FOR AND ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION
A motion was made by Councilmember Ian Hugh, Seconded by Member
Irene Avalos
AYE: Councilmember, Chairperson Jamie Aldama
Councilmember Ian Hugh
Councilmember Raymond Malnar
Member Irene Avalos
Other: Member Rusty Simmons (ABSENT)
6. EXECUTIVE SESSION
Review and discuss draft audit reports pursuant to Glendale City Code
§2-54b and §2-58c (A.R.S. §38-431.03 (A)(2)). Session was held.
7. MOTION TO ADJOURN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND RECONVENE IN OPEN
SESSION
A motion was made by Councilmember Ian Hugh, Seconded by Member
Irene Avalos
AYE: Councilmember, Chairperson Jamie Aldama
Councilmember Ian Hugh
Councilmember Raymond Malnar
Member Irene Avalos
Other: Member Rusty Simmons (ABSENT)
8. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
Councilmember Aldama announced that the committee would review and
consider vote to approve the following three audit reports: IT Third -Party Risk
Management, Field Operations Facilities Management, and Triennial Courts
Agreed Upon Procedures. Councilmember Hugh motioned to approve the audit
reports, with amended management response to finding # 3 of the Field
Operations Facilities Management report. Member Avalos made the second.
Motion carried unanimously.
Councilmember Aldama announced that the committee would review and
consider vote to approve the proposed FY24 Audit Plan. Councilmember Hugh
motioned to approve the audit plan, with amended assignment of two audits from
IIAP staff to contracted vendors. Member Avalos made the second. Motion
carried unanimously.
9. UPDATE ON COMMITTEE GOALS
Mr. Kingery reviewed the goals that were reaffirmed by the Audit Committee
during the September 15, 2022 meeting. The goals are: 1) developing a work
plan for implementation of an Independent Internal Audit Program (IIAP) quality
assurance and improvement program in preparation for a peer review in FY24,
and 2) monitoring remediation of outstanding recommendations from prior audits
to ensure they are fully implemented by expected/target date. Mr. Kingery noted
that goal # 2 will be discussed first.
For goal # 2, Mr. Kingery included the updated spreadsheet in the meeting
materials, noting that completed action plans were removed, and some new
items that have reached their targeted completion date were added. One item
related to the Public Records Compliance audit was resolved the day before this
meeting, but the materials had already been distributed. Per Councilmember
Malnar's request at the previous meeting, Mr. Kingery added a column for new
due dates on the items that had yet to be completed. When updating the
spreadsheet based on correspondence with the departments responsible for
action plan implementation, Mr. Kingery requested new target completion dates.
Mr. Kingery noted that while some items had longer gaps between original
implementation and currently projected completion dates, departments had
reasonable explanations why they were incomplete. The reasons varied based
on the department and its action plan(s). Member Avalos asked about the policy
of remediating findings within 12 months. Mr. Kingery stated that it is not a policy
per se, but more like a guideline. Mr. Kingery noted that there is not an IIAP
Policy and Procedures Manual currently in place; he is working on one currently
which will be addressed next in reference to goal # 1.
In further response to Ms. Avalos' inquiry, Mr. Kingery asked the committee's
opinion on consequences for the departments that are not completing their
remediation plans timely. He noted that management has the responsibility to
hold departments accountable for addressing audit recommendations. Member
Avalos asked if responsible parties/departmental directors have these audit items
incorporated into their annual performance evaluations. Mr. Phelps said that
would be up to the appropriate level of management to decide, but that audit
standards don't prescribe a "punishment" aspect for non-compliance. Ms.
Avalos mentioned that while she is not necessarily advocating for punishment,
she feels it is appropriate for senior management to ensure departmental
compliance with their action plans as part of a performance -based assessment
measure.
Mr. Kingery noted that although he has not yet been with the City long enough to
cycle through previous audits again, any repeat findings would bear more weight
and likely increase the risk level of that area and potentially lead to more frequent
audits. Mr. Phelps indicated that he is less concerned about the timeline to
complete action plans than having a schedule that makes sense for each
particular finding. A target date that is too far away for an item that can be easily
addressed is just as unreasonable as a short time period to resolve a large-scale
and/or system -related issue. Mr. Kingery noted that most of the timelines are
less than 12 months and initially appear reasonable. Mr. Phelps asked Vicki
Rios (Assistant City Manager) to work with Mr. Kingery on developing a
framework for addressing audit recommendations and corresponding
management action plans, reporting back to the committee on its progress. Ms.
Avalos liked that approach and indicated that the committee should have some
say on the reasonableness of the timelines that departments offer for action plan
implementation. Ms. Avalos indicated she was pleased with the spreadsheet
provided each quarter, and that the added column with a new expected
completion date helps the committee gain more traction on the current status of
outstanding findings. There was no further discussion on goal # 2.
For committee goal # 1, Mr. Kingery related how the peer review requirement
applies to HAP currently. The way the audit charter (City Administrative Policy 5)
reads today indicates that HAP is expected to adhere to both the Yellow Book
(standards published by the Government Accounting Office) and the Red Book
(standards published by the Institute of Internal Auditors). This makes HAP an
"orange shop", which is a huge administrative burden, especially for a
one -person department. Based on research of standards and discussions with
ALGA (Association of Local Government Auditors) peer review leadership, Mr.
Kingery concluded that operating solely as a Red Book shop makes the most
sense for HAP. This recommendation comes as the IIA is overhauling its
standards for the first time in decades with the publishing of new Global Internal
Auditing Standards (GIAS). The GIAS specifically address challenges and
unique circumstances addressing small audit shops, as well as those in the
public sector.
Mr. Phelps agreed that the administrative burden associated with excessive
standards compliance can affect the efficiency and productivity within IIAP's
limited resources. To benefit the organization the most, Mr. Phelps agreed that it
makes sense to adopt the GIAS as our standards and that if necessary, we can
require specific engagements to adhere to Yellow Book standards as well when
appropriate. Ms. Avalos asked if our contracted vendors have a choice of which
standards to follow on each engagement. Mr. Kingery indicated that our current
contract for our five qualified vendors ends effective June 30, 2024. As a new
Request for Proposal (RFQ) will need to be issued in FY24 to be effective for
FY25 and beyond, Mr. Kingery indicated that we can specify contractor
adherence to the GIAS in the RFQ, as well as Yellow Book compliance when
and if it's warranted. Ms. Avalos supported this approach.
Mr. Kingery noted that changes to the standards and IIAP becoming solely a Red
Book shop would also require corresponding revisions to our current audit
charter. Mr. Kingery shared with the committee copies of the current charter and
suggested revisions, along with a clean version with all changes accepted. He
indicated that changes to the audit charter, along with authoring an IIAP Policy
and Procedures Manual (PPM), can be presented at the next quarterly meeting
in September for committee consideration. Ms. Avalos asked if formal approval
by the audit committee is required before moving forward with the PPM and
revised charter. Mr. Phelps indicated that once presented to the audit
committee, they would decide if these changes are the best approach and adopt
them, or remanded back to go to a different standard.
With respect to the proposed audit charter changes, Ms. Avalos asked about
clarification for one of the acronyms included, and Councilmember Malnar noted
a typo to fix. Mr. Kingery said that both would be corrected in the version he'll
present to committee in September. Ms. Avalos also asked about "periodic"
updates to following up on outstanding findings as per the audit charter. Mr.
Kingery indicated those would continue on a quarterly basis in the audit
committee meetings. Nancy Mangone (Deputy City Attorney) asked for
clarification that the audit charter changes are only a change to policy and not a
change to the City Charter. Mr. Kingery confirmed it's only an operational policy
change, which was confirmed by Mr. Phelps and Ms. Rios. There was no further
discussion on this agenda item.
10. UPDATE ON FY23 AUDIT PLAN
For the FY23 audit plan, Mr. Kingery noted that all engagements had either
been completed (seven), have fieldwork in progress (four), or have been
deferred to the FY24 audit plan (only the Payroll audit as work on implementing
automated analytics is about to begin). The seven completed audits are:
Property Evidence for the Police Department, the Triennial Agreed Upon
Procedures for City Courts, City Fees, Field Operations Facilities Management,
Glendale Housing Program, IT Third -Party Risk, and the IT Password Security
audit. The four in progress are: Airport Compliance, Community Services'
Revitalization Program, Fire Department Asset Management, and the
Procurement audit. There was no discussion on this agenda item.
11. COMMITTEE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
There were no comments, suggestions, or questions.
12. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Audit Committee will be held on September 7,
2023, at 2:00 p.m., at a location to be determined. All committee members
agreed on that date/time.
13. ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, Councilmember Hugh adjourned the meeting at 3:57
p.m. because the Chair (Councilmember Aldama) had to leave the meeting a few
minutes prior.
The Audit Committee meeting minutes of June 7, 2023, were submitted
and approved thisf�th day of September, 2023.
Michael Kingery-
Internal Audit Program M Hager