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Glendale
ARIZONA
MINUTES
GOVERNMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE
CITY HALL
COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM
5850 W. GLENDALE AVE.
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85301
MARCH 7, 2023
2:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Councilmember Turner called the meeting to order at 2:15 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Bart Turner, Chair
Ian Hugh, Councilmember
Lauren Tolmachoff, Councilmember
Also Present: Marcela Moreno, Deputy City Clerk
Jamsheed Mehta, Assistant City Manager
Randy Huggins, Director, Development Services
Tabitha Perry, Manager, Planning
Attendees: Timothy Quinn, Chair, Historic Preservation Commission
3. CITIZEN COMMENTS
There were no comments.
4. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
a. Approval of the minutes of the February 7, 2023 Government Services Committee meeting
Motioned by Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff, seconded by Councilmember Ian Hugh to
approve the February 7, 2023 Government Services Committee meeting minutes.
AYE: Chair Bart Turner •
Councilmember Ian Hugh
Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff
Passed
5. NEW BUSINESS
a. Discussion regarding Historic Preservation Commission activities
Councilmember Turner explained why he requested to discuss possible Historic Preservation
Commission (HPC) activities related to notifying historical homeowners of their historical value
for the community. He asked for staff to share the current roles of the HPC.
Timothy Quinn, Historic Preservation Commission Chair, said due to the pandemic,
commission activities slowed down. He said the inventory could be updated from twenty years
ago, but it would be costly and would require significant staff time.
Ms. Perry said staff was in the process of conducting research on the cost to survey homes
that should be added to the registrars' list. She shared feedback from the commissioners on
requested activities for the commission.
Mr. Quinn suggested also research various historical homes that were not necessarily in
historic areas. He gave an example of Great Depression era housing made of concrete
structures in the area southeast of 51st Avenue and Northern Avenue.
Councilmember Hugh asked what the requirements for a home were to qualify to be
considered historic.
Ms. Perry recalled a form was required and surveyors would inspect the property to make a
determination.
Councilmember Hugh asked how old a house had to be.
Ms. Perry did not have that information.
Councilmember Hugh suggested the HPC could determine new historic properties.
Mr. Quinn said there were numerous areas that could be reviewed. He recalled a consultant
was used previously.
Ms. Perry said that was correct. She said the commission's budget would require funding in
order to hire a consultant.
Councilmember Tolmachoff recalled the state funding The Heritage Fund. She asked if this
was an opportunity that the commission could use.
Ms. Perry said the department has discussed the possibility of grant funding.
Councilmember Tolmachoff recalled she requested funding for a Grant Writer during the last
budget cycle.
Councilmember Turner asked if it was too late into the budget cycle to allot funds for Historic
Preservation activities.
Mr. Mehta said typically a consultant was hired for grant writing and that cost should not be an
issue for the current fiscal year.
Councilmember Turner said if salary savings were used to fund a grant writer, it was salary
costs, although it would not be internal.
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Mr. Mehta said that was correct.
Councilmember Turner asked if there were any requests from the HPC that the Council should
be aware of.
Mr. Mehta suggested to hire a grant writer to obtain funding to pay for surveyors and
publications.
Mr. Quinn suggested to contact the architectural school at Arizona State University (ASU) to
develop a class related to conducting a survey.
Mr. Huggins shared his experience participating in the Historic Preservation tour.
Councilmember Turner asked if the Historic Preservation tour would be restarting.
Mr. Quinn said Ms. Perry was currently researching the requirements to restart the tour.
Councilmember Turner suggested adding the Historic Preservation tour as a stop on the
Glendale University program.
Mr. Perry said based on time and funding for the current year, the tour would be virtual, with
the anticipation that next year would be the walking tour. She was still gathering the necessary
information before presenting it to the commission for input.
Mr. Huggins recalled the bus tour used coach style buses.
Ms. Perry said the buses were obtained through grant funding.
Councilmember Turner shared why he requested to discuss the Historic Preservation
Commission. Asked if it was possible to conduct outreach to owners of historic properties.
Mr. Mehta said flyers could be sent to individuals explaining what a designation would entail.
Councilmember Turner asked if it was possible to flag historic properties on the Assessor's
website.
Councilmember Tolmachoff said it could be part of the title report for the property.
Councilmember Turner asked if there was a designated Historic Preservation Officer.
Ms. Perry said a Senior Planner was the unofficial officer and he was in the process of being
trained.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked if there were rules regarding maintaining historic character
of the property or neighborhood for the city.
Ms. Perry said the city did have similar rules.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked how people were notified.
Ms. Perry gave an example of when a permit was pulled to change a structure, if in a historic
area, they were required to obtain clearance for their proposal as to whether the change
maintained the character.
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Councilmember Tolmachoff gave an example of a person that was not aware of the
requirement to maintain the character of the neighborhood. She asked if information could be
provided to a buyer of city requirements.
Ms. Perry said explained the process of a person requesting a permit through the city and the
process of a person making changes without notifying the city. She said based on the
discussion, staff needed to inform historic property owners the proper steps to make any
structural changes.
Mr. Quinn said designated properties had the opportunity to pay half of the property tax that
would be required.
Councilmember Turner asked if there was an ordinance that had a similar requirement to
changing historic structures. He recalled businesses did not get the tax break, only residential
properties.
Ms. Perry said that was correct.
Councilmember Turner gave an example of the old First Christian Church and how the exterior
was painted. He asked if they had any way of knowing the requirement for the historic
property.
Ms. Perry recalled that they did work through staff and it was determined to be acceptable, but
she was unsure the exact reason why.
Councilmember Turner did not recall requirements that would stop someone from making
changes to a historic property.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked if a permit was required to stucco an exterior.
Mr. Huggins explained the inspection process for stucco.
Mr. Mehta said there was a certification process, but he did not recall if it was part of an
ordinance. He explained the Historic Preservation Officer's process in reviewing and certifying
incoming requests. Requests would also go through a second review with the Planning
Commission.
Councilmember Turner said they would act similar to the Board of Adjustment for preservation
issues.
Mr. Mehta said that was correct.
Ms. Perry did not recall many cases brought before the Planning Commission.
Councilmember Turner shared the process he went through when modifying the entryway to
the fruit packing house at Sahuaro Ranch Park. He recalled seeing ditches piped in that were
previously open ditches. He was unsure whether that change went through the historic
process.
Mr. Mehta recalled Jim Burke, Parks and Recreation Director, asking the Planning Department
if the improvement was allowable within the historic preservation ordinance.
Mr. Quinn added the last major renovations done to the main house were completed under
those same guidelines.
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Councilmember Hugh was in favor of moving forward with allowing the commission to notify
residents of the historical housing within the city. He added there were additional historic
homes that were not within historic neighborhoods.
Mr. Quinn recalled a home a 51st Avenue and Northern.
Councilmember Hugh recalled that home was enclosed by the orchard.
Councilmember Turner summarized the discussion and conveyed to the Historic Preservation
Commission members the GSC's appreciation for their efforts. He encouraged feedback from
members on how GSC could support their historical efforts.
Councilmember Turner asked if the Historic Preservation tour was well attended.
Ms. Perry said it absolutely was.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked how much the tour cost to hold. She commented on the
City's historical value that many residents may not be aware of.
Mr. Quinn recalled the initial response from tour participants.
Councilmember Tolmachoff requested information on the cost to hold a tour.
Ms. Perry indicated she had begun researching the information and would provide that to the
GSC.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked if the Historic Preservation Commission was involved with
Manistee Ranch.
Mr. Quinn said the Historical Society oversaw Manistee Ranch.
Councilmember Turner shared how the property was divided with parts belonging to the
Historical Society and the City.
Councilmember Tolmachoff added previous discussions regarding the sustainability of
Manistee Ranch and the possibility of an endowment for the property.
Councilmember Turner restated his gratitude for the commission and if staff would like to
discuss the item further to let the GSC know.
Mr. Quinn said when staff time became available, he would like to discuss details that could
proceed a survey.
Councilmember Turner said the Council could consider appropriating budgeted funds to
support the commission.
Councilmember Tolmachoff suggested an intern to assist with the more detailed research and
work for the survey and planning a tour.
6. MOTION TO ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION
Motioned by Councilmember Ian Hugh, seconded by Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff to
hold an executive session.
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AYE: Chair Bart Turner
Councilmember Ian Hugh
Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff
Passed
7. EXECUTIVE SESSION
The Government Services Commission met in executive session at 2:59 p.m. for discussion
and consideration of appointments and other items relating to various boards and commissions
and other bodies pursuant to (A.R.S. 38-431.03(A)(1)).
Motioned by Councilmember Ian Hugh, seconded by Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff to
adjourn the executive session.
AYE: Chair Bart Turner
Councilmember Ian Hugh
Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff
Passed
Councilmember Turner adjourned the executive session at 3:04 p.m.
8. NEXT MEETING
Ms. Moreno said the April 4th Government Services Committee meeting would be vacated due
to the previously scheduled budget meeting. The next Government Services Committee
meeting would be held on May 2nd, 2023 at 2:00 p.m., in the Council Conference Room of City
Hall, located at 5850 W. Glendale Ave, Glendale, Arizona 85301.
9. ADJOURNMENT
Motioned by Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff, seconded by Councilmember Ian Hugh to
adjourn the meeting.
AYE: Chair Bart Turner
Councilmember Ian Hugh
Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff
Passed
Councilmember Turner adjourned the meeting at 3:05 p.m.
The Government Services Committee meeting minutes of March 7, 2023 were
submitted and approved
day of August, 2023.
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Marcela Moreno, CMC
Deputy City Clerk
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