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A R 1 T n N A
MINUTES
AUDIT COMMITTEE
MAIN LIBRARY - BOARDROOM
5959 W. BROWN ST.
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85302
JANUARY 18, 2023
1:30 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Councilmember Malnar called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Ian Hugh, Councilmember
Raymond Malnar, Councilmember (presided in Chair's absence)
Irene Avalos, Member
Kevin Phelps, City Manager
Levi Gibson, Budget & Finance Director
Absent: Jamie Aldama, Councilmember, Chairperson
Rusty Simmons, Member
Also Present: Mike Kingery, Independent Internal Audit Program Manager
James Gruber, Chief Deputy City Attorney
Vicki Rios, Assistant City Manager
Jamsheed Mehta, Assistant City Manager
Feroz Merchhiya, Chief Information Officer, Innovation & Technology
Arlene Chemello, Deputy Chief Information Officer, Innovation & Technology
Michelle Woytenko, Director, Field Operations
Craig Croner, Deputy Director, Field Operations
Jeff Bratcher, Program Manager, Organizational Performance Office
Chelsea Ritchie, Consulting Senior Manager, Moss Adams (Guest)
Paul Ashe, President, Securance Consulting (Guest)
3. CITIZEN COMMENTS
No citizen comments were received/made.
4. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
Councilmember Hugh motioned to approve the Audit Committee Minutes of the
September 15, 2022, meeting as written. Member Avalos made the second. Motion
carried unanimously.
5. MOTION TO CALL FOR AND ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION
Councilmember Hugh motioned to call for and enter into Executive Session at 1:32 p.m.
Member Avalos made the second. Motion carried unanimously.
6. EXECUTIVE SESSION
Review and discuss draft audit reports pursuant to Glendale City Code
§2-54b and §2-58c (A.R.S. §38-431.03 (A)(2)). Session was held.
7. MOTION TO ADJOURN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION
Councilmember Hugh motioned to adjourn Executive Session at 2:11 p.m. Member
Avalos made the second. Motion carried unanimously and Open Session was
reconvened.
8. CONSIDERATION & POSSIBLE VOTE ON EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS
Councilmember Malnar announced that the committee would review and consider vote to
approve the following two audit reports with discussed modifications: Password Security
and Fleet Management. Member Avalos motioned to approve the audit reports.
Councilmember Hugh made the second. Motion carried unanimously.
9. DISCUSSION ON IIAP POLICY, PROCEDURES, AND AUDIT CHARTER
Mr. Kingery explained the background of the City's audit charter. As currently written, the
charter indicates that the Independent Internal Audit Program (IIAP) follows standards
from two organizations. The Yellow Book includes Generally Accepted Government
Auditing Standards (GAGAS) and is published by the Government Accountability Office
(GAO). The Red Book is the common name of the International Professional Practices
Framework, published by the Institute of Internal Auditors (IIA). By following both sets of
standards, the audit charter makes the IIAP an "Orange Book" audit shop. For a
one -person audit shop, adhering to two sets of standards is very difficult due to the large
amount of administration required by each.
Mr. Kingery explained what he learned as a member of the peer review team for the City
of Toronto, which is a Yellow Book shop. When he did the peer review in October of
2022, Toronto had a staff of around 33 people, which included one person whose sole
duties involved compliance with Yellow Book standards for the entire office. Mr. Kingery
added that when he has discussed standards and peer reviews with other auditors, as
well as with the leader of the ALGA (Association of Local Government Auditors) peer
review program, those parties advised that small audit shops should choose either the
Red Book or Yellow Book, but usually not both. Per his research, Mr. Kingery determined
that most small audit shops follow the Red Book, but indicated he is willing to follow either
one or both sets of standards.
Mr. Kingery noted that our audit charter needs to be updated regardless, to reflect some
changes in practice and correct some errors. He offered to present the pros and cons of
Yellow vs. Red vs. Orange Book shops, along with a revised charter and a proposed
Policies and Procedures manual to the June audit committee meeting for their
consideration. He added that he was about to lead a peer review team of an Orange
Book shop in Florida, which would also provide additional insight and experience.
Member Avalos thought this was a good approach and asked if we're okay with any
approach as long as we adhere to the corresponding standards. IIAP staff (Mr. Kingery)
confirmed that was correct, and added that ALGA recommends at least one full year of
operating under newly adopted standards before requesting a peer review. Member
Avalos asked that if we changed nothing, when is IIAP due for our peer review. IIAP staff
responded that currently we would request one for FY24, but that we have options on
how to write the charter/policies/procedures to account for timeline changes if
necessary.
Mr. Kingery indicated that Yellow Book standards call for a peer review every three years,
while Red Book is every five years. He added that ALGA wants the requesting audit
shop to know its operations are up and running successfully prior to getting on the peer
review schedule. Member Avalos noted a concern that if we repeatedly change the type
of shop we are (Yellow, Red, or Orange Book), would that reset the clock of when peer
reviews are due and lead to us never having one completed. She wants IIAP to ensure
that the updated charter reflects that we will adhere to the peer review standard based on
which type of audit shop we ultimately decide upon.
Member Malnar asked for clarity as to if IIAP is recommending one type of audit shop
over another. Mr. Kingery noted that ALGA generally leans towards Red book for small
shops, but that he wasn't recommending one over the other. Rather, presenting the info
at the June audit committee meeting to consider member feedback would help shape the
revised charter, which is an internal departmental change and does not require City
Council action. There was no additional discussion on this item.
10. UPDATE ON COMMITTEE GOALS
Mr. Kingery reviewed the goals that were reaffirmed by the Audit Committee during the
September 15, 2022 meeting. The goals are: 1) developing a work plan for
implementation of an Independent Internal Audit Program (IIAP) quality assurance and
improvement program in preparation for a peer review in FY24, and 2) monitoring
remediation of outstanding recommendations from prior audits to ensure they are fully
implemented by expected/target date. As the first goal was just thoroughly discussed in
the last topic, I IAP staff addressed the second goal.
Mr. Kingery noted that he did not include the spreadsheet of outstanding findings in the
audit packet to give the audited departments as much time as possible to provide
updates prior to this meeting. Of the findings reviewed with the committee in the
September 2022 meeting, only minor updates to five of them have occurred. Two are
closed, two more are essentially closed but being further evaluated by IIAP, and one was
erroneously omitted by IIAP from the last meeting's spreadsheet. The latter item
pertained to revision of the City Clerk's policies and procedures and was still under
consideration by the City Manager's Office prior to publishing an official revised version.
Mr. Kingery said he would email the spreadsheet of outstanding findings to the committee
and offered to include it with the pre -meeting materials moving forward. Member Avalos
agreed with that approach and asked for confirmation of when IIAP considers a finding to
be closed. Mr. Kingery stated that it depends on the nature of the finding and items could
be considered closed for different reasons, but that ultimately items are closed when the
audited department has adequately addressed the recommendations as confirmed by
IIAP. There was no further discussion.
11. UPDATE ON FY23 AUDIT PLAN
For the FY23 audit plan, Mr. Kingery noted there were four assigned to staff (Property
Evidence for the Police Department, the Triennial Agreed Upon Procedures for City
Courts, an Airport Compliance audit, and another Purchase Card audit). He noted that
following consultation with Police leadership and the City Manager's Office, and per IIAP
recommendation, the Property Evidence engagement would be a limited scope audit for
a number of reasons. These reasons include internal controls already in place as part of
annual Police accreditation standards and thorough analysis of requirements for the
proposed new Property Evidence facility during its initial design stages. Mr. Kingery
stated that he has completed the fieldwork phase of the audit and will present the report
at the next audit committee meeting.
IIAP staff noted that fieldwork for the Courts audit is just underway and the report for that
engagement will also be presented at the next meeting. He added that the Airport
Compliance audit had not yet begun and will likely start in the fourth quarter of FY23. In
addition, Mr. Kingery indicated that the p-card audit will probably be replaced by the
Payroll audit deferred from FY22 if some automated analytics can be successfully and
timely implemented. Mr. Kingery stated that he has worked with the vendor for our audit
software (Diligent/HighBond) and the IT department to see about installing some
robotics/analytics related to payroll. This is currently going through the procurement
process. Therefore, the timing of this audit will be dependent upon contract terms and
system integration/implementation.
Mr. Kingery indicated that with Moss Adams' presentation today of the Fleet
Management audit, the FY22 audit plan is complete. For the contracted audits in FY23,
one of our qualified vendors (Heinfeld Meech) is wrapping up fieldwork on the first (Field
Operations Asset Management) of two audits under our current structure. The second
audit by Heinfeld Meech is Fire Asset Management, which will begin after the Super
Bowl. Another vendor, Securance Consulting, presented the Password Security audit
today, and their second audit (Third Party Risk) has a kick-off meeting scheduled for
mid -February.
The remaining four contracted audits will be done by Moss Adams. The Housing
(compliance) audit fieldwork is nearing completion and will be presented in either the next
committee meeting or the following. A second audit in Community Services of the
Revitalization Program will likely begin in the final quarter of FY23. The third audit by
Moss Adams is a City Fees engagement; fieldwork is nearly complete, with a meeting on
preliminary findings later this week. The fourth and final audit is a review of the
Procurement Process; IIAP is working with Budget & Finance to schedule an opening
conference soon.
Mr. Kingery added that he is in the midst of a city-wide risk assessment exercise. He is
gathering results and meeting with each department's leadership team to discuss them.
Compiled results will shape the FY24 audit plan, which he hopes to present at the next
audit committee meeting. As the next meeting is only two months away due to the
postponement of today's meeting, IIAP staff asked committee members if they wanted to
stay on the regular schedule or maybe combine the remaining two meetings into one,
possibly in May. The committee members indicated their preference was to stay on the
regular schedule. There were no other comments or questions.
12. COMMITTEE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
Member Avalos thanked IIAP staff for continuing to work simultaneously on many
projects, recognizing the difficulty for a one -person audit shop to tackle so much. There
were no further comments, suggestions, or questions.
13. NEXT MEETING
The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Audit Committee will be on Thursday, March
23, 2023, at 2:00 p.m. All committee members agreed on that date/time.
14. ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, Councilmember Malnar adjourned the meeting at 2:34 p.m.
The Audit Committee meeting minutes of January 18, 2023, were submitted and
approved this 23rd day of March, 2023.
Mike Kingery
Indpendent Intern I dit Program Manager