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BUSINESS COUNCIL COMMITTEE
CONFERENCE ROOM B3
5850 W. GLENDALE AVE.
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85301
THURSDAY, MAY 20th, 2021
2:00 PM
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at approximately 2 PM.
ROLL CALL
Committee members present: Chairperson Joyce Clark, Vice Chairperson Bart Shea,
Councilmember Ray Malnar, Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff, Dale Adams, John Crow,
Yvonne Knaack, and Ricardo Toris were present.
Committee members absent: N/A
City staff present: Jamsheed Mehta (Development Services Director) Rick St John (Deputy
City Manager) David Richert (Interim Planning Administrator) Shannon Beck (Council
Assistant) and Sherry Crapser (Management Assistant) were present.
Presentation by Matthew Klyszeiko from Michael Baker International.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Christopher Budreski of Glendale at 4542 W Maryland Ave Glendale AZ 85301 voiced his
issues with mobile food vendors parking and selling foods to children during the hours that
children are leaving school. Mr. Budreski was asking for assurance that there haven't been any
changes since his last meeting attendance in June 2020. Chairperson Clark appreciated Mr.
Budreski's expression of his concerns, and said they hoped to address his concerns during their
mobile food vendor discussion today.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
A motion to approve the April meeting minutes was made by Councilmember Malnar, and it was
seconded by Councilmember Tolmachoff. All were in favor, and none opposed.
ITEMS
A. Provisions for different types of signs. (example: hospital signs vs. advertising signs)
Councilmember Tolmachoff debriefed Mr. Klyszeiko on their concerns with signage for
hospital signs, and Councilmember Tolmachoff asked if there were separate guidelines for
hospitals, emergency rooms, or other businesses where it's important to easily be able to identify
where to go. Mr. Klyszeiko said they're working on this exact issue with Mr. Pruett, Mr. Mehta,
and Mr. St. John. There isn't specific language drafted just yet, but it will be in the June meeting.
Chairperson Clark suggested giving the committee the draft in June, having the committee
review all the modules in July when the committee does not meet, and then revising it in August.
Mr. Klyszeiko and Mr. Mehta agreed to this.
B. Mobile food vendors
Chairperson Clark asked Ms. Knaack to speak on this subject. Ms. Knaack provided
Arizona's legislations recommended for all cities for the sake of uniformity. This mainly entails
parking, fingerprinting, background checks, and merchant vs. mobile food vendors, and this is all
detailed in the material sent out by Ms. Knaack. Ms. Knaack then recounted an example of
mobile food vendors in Glendale and the issue that there aren't any city regulations for these
types of vendors. Mr. Mehta outlined all the zoning challenges that need to be addressed while
creating ordinances for mobile food vendors.
Councilmember Malnar said what needs to be decided is if a permit, a license, or both are
needed for the mobile food vendors in Glendale specifically. Many cities do not require either,
and this could potentially be problematic for the city by pushing the vendors to other surrounding
cities. Chairperson Clark agreed, but then asked the committee to consider specifying how a
vendor changes from a temporary to a permanent vendor, and in addition, Chairperson Clark
suggested the city having regulations on mobile vendor aesthetics. Mr. St. John suggested
regulating vendors based on parking availability. Mr. Klyszeiko did acknowledge that the city
can regulate legal parking spaces. Mr. Adams asked if there are any major issues with food
vendors in Glendale, and Chairperson Clark said mobile vendors becoming permanent vendors is
the main issue that needs to be addressed. Mr. Adams suggested identifying specific spots around
Glendale where the city can rent out the spot to the vendors, and there are specific restrictions for
how long they can stay.
Ms. Knaack noted that while there were many ideas suggested by the committee, the goal
is to establish Glendale's own ordinances to identify problems and solutions, and the best way
would be to adopt the state's ordinance. Chairperson Clark suggested still incorporating a permit
or licensing process for the vendors and charging vendors. Chairperson Clark then suggested
further investigation to help solve Mr. Budreski's concerns. Councilmember Tolmachoff asked
about tent vendors being considered mobile vendors and if the defining characteristics of
"mobile vendors" can be adjusted to include tent vendors. Chairperson Clark closed with telling
the committee they're looking forward to reviewing the progress on this in the June meeting.
C. Response to Liz Recchia's (of WeSERVE) letter
Chairperson Clark wanted to discuss different issues Ms.Recchia brought forward to the
committee. Chairperson Clark provided hard copies of these issues for the committee to
reference. The first issue is allowing political signage in public rights of way whereas other
signage is prohibited. The committee discovered that this is a state law regulation.
The next issue is of immediate compliance for non -conforming signage in need of repair
or replacement. Chairperson Clark suggested 60 days, and confirmed with Mr. Klyszeiko, and he
said the plan was to adjust this 60 -day limit.
The next issue is clarification of signage that may not contain a commercial message or
may not relate to the goods/services offered in the building. Mr. Klyszeiko noted this is an
ongoing issue based on commercial and non-commercial speech. Freedom of speech also factors
in with this. The goal is to clarify what would be considered signage and what would be
considered art. Mr. Mehta noted there are some stipulations of what areas of the building can be
used for murals. After further discussion about various signage and art around the community,
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Mr. Toris asked if other cities were having similar issues with signage and art. Chairperson Clark
said they will look into this. Mr. Crow asked if the city can restrict murals to only being created
in art districts, but Mr. Mehta explained this could be seen as unconstitutional.
The next issue is whether or not to allow signage if it's intended as a design element.
Chairperson Clark suggested not allowing any signage with rust. The rest of the committee
agreed to this and still opposed rust on signs.
The next issue is allowing longer than 48-hour time compliance that's a safety risk. Mr.
Klyszeiko relates to the second item on the agenda, but he said they could explore this 48-hour
compliance. The committee recommended saying "two business days" instead of "48 -hours."
Councilmember Malnar made a motion for this recommendation, and it was seconded by Ms.
Knaack. All were in favor, and none opposed.
The next issue is the requirement of entry wall mounted signage to incorporate key
design elements of the development. Based upon the language submitted, it's required. Mr. Toris
noted the ordinance currently requires this. Vice Chairperson Shea noted the city does review the
signage and how it is incorporated to the project, and he recommended the committee not make
any changes.
The next issue is WeSERVE suggests painted wall signage not require a permit.
Chairperson Clark disagreed with this, and the rest of the committee concurred. Based on the
committee response, no changes will be made to this.
The next item is regarding subdivision flags; WeSERVE recommended they will need to
be removed with most of the lots have been sold. Mr. Toris asked for a specific amount of lots
being sold instead of using terminology like most. Councilmember Malnar and the rest of the
committee recommended to not make any changes to this after all.
The next item is "require that offsite new subdivision signage placement be limited to
vacant property." Chairperson Clark noted this is in the proposed code, and the committee
recommended it should remain as is.
The next item "allowed distressed or auction properties to display up to four signs," and
WeSERVE makes a strong case for this. Chairperson Clark asked if there are federal or state
government regulations that the committee must comply with in regards to the number of signs.
Mr. St. John noted that HUD properties require a sign, and a broker sign is required as well;
therefore, four signs makes sense. Chairperson Clark then asked Mr. Mehta and Mr. Klyszeiko to
confirm four signs being within compliance. After further discussion, specifying size limitation
was recommended by the committee.
The final item is "do murals, art, painted signs, temporary signs, etc. inadvertently
discriminate against one or more groups?" Chairperson Clark noted throughout signage
discussions, the committee has made very effort to avoid this.
D. Additional consultant issues
No additional consultant issues were discussed at this time, but they may be addressed at
the next meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Chairperson Clark asked if there is any other signage business, please send it to Ms.Beck
for the next meeting.
STAFF REPORT
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No staff report was given.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
No committee comments or suggestions were made.
NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Business Council Committee will be held on June 17th, 2021, at
2 PM, located at 5850 W. Glendale Avenue, Conference Room B3, Glendale, Arizona 85301.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Clark adjourned the meeting.
The meeting adjourned at approximately 3:42 PM.
Sherry Crapser, Recording Secretary
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