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CITY OF GLENDALE
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
GLENDALE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BUILDING
CONERENCE ROOM B-3
5850 WEST GLENDALE AVENUE
GLENDALE,ARIZONA 85301
THURSDAY,JANUARY 9, 2003
7:00 P.M.
The regular meeting was called to order at approximately 7:00 p.m. by Chairperson Douglas
Ward, with the following members and representatives present:
BOARDMEMBERS PRESENT: Douglas Ward, Chairperson
Tommie Beck
Carl Dietzman, Vice-Chairperson
Carol Marx
Richard Schwartz
George Giarrusso
BOARDMEMBERS ABSENT: David Iwanski
CITY STAFF: Ray Jacobs, Zoning Administrator
Jim Flenner, City Attorney
Kate Langford, Acting Planning Manager
Tabitha Perry, Associate Planner
John Fukasawa, Associate Planner
Sally Millward, Recording Secretary
Chairperson Ward explained the Board's policies and hearing procedures.
Chairperson Ward called for approval of the December 12, 2002 minutes.
Boardmember Dietzman made a MOTION to APPROVE the minutes from the December
12, 2002 meeting. Boardmember Beck SECONDED the MOTION. The motion PASSED
by a vote of 6-0.
Chairperson Ward called for Business from the Floor. There was none.
Chairperson Ward asked staff if there were any requests for withdrawals or continuances. There
were none.
Chairperson Ward called for public hearing items.
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APPLICATION NO.: ZV-02-23
REQUEST: A request by Charles Lightner for a variance in the A-1
(Agricultural) zoning district to allow a 3-foot rear yard
setback where 8 feet is the minimum allowed for an
accessory structure. The property is located at 5235 West
Escuda Drive. Staff Contact: Tabitha Perry (Cholla
District).
Ms. Perry presented the application, reviewing the site and request.
In response to Boardmember Giarrusso's question, Ms. Perry explained that the structure, "as
is", is nine feet in height. She said the applicant intends to construct a roof on the structure
resulting in an ultimate height of 12 feet. Boardmember Giarrusso asked if the fence behind the
residence is four or six feet high. Ms. Perry stated the fence measures 52 inches in height.
Boardmember Giarrusso suggested adding height to the fence to help shield the structure from
the adjacent property.
Charles Lightner, applicant, explained that the City of Glendale dictated where his house would
be built. He stated he originally had problems when he permitted the garage and ultimately
lowered its height to appease his neighbor. He said he was told at that time that three feet was
the minimum required distance between the wall and the gazebo. He stated, therefore, they built
the gazebo approximately 42 inches from the wall. He said the inspector, Steve Goldsmith,
checked to ensure the structure was legal and found no problems. He explained the problem
arose when it was determined his accessory building required a setback. He stated he originally
did not intend to place a roof on the structure, but changed his mind when it was determined he
would have to obtain a variance anyway.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked how the property is accessed. Mr. Lightner referred to
photographs, explaining a 27-foot easement passes through the neighbor's property in front of
his house. He also pointed out the location of the garage and gazebo on the photographs.
Boardmember Schwartz told the applicant the roof creates a problem and asked if he would be
willing to forego the roof and the wall in the back. Mr. Lightner asked if he could add a flat roof,
eliminating the additional height. He explained the wall was built to provide privacy and offered
to add additional height to the wall to further screen his gazebo.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked who owns the wall. Mr. Lightner stated both he and his neighbor
own the wall.
Boardmember Beck asked Mr. Lightner if he has any documentation supporting his claim that he
was told the structure had to be placed three feet from his house. Mr. Lightner responded no,
stating, however, Steve Goldsmith was aware of the situation.
Chairperson Ward opened the meeting up for public comment on this case.
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Rosalia Dihel, 19729 North 52nd Drive, explained she lives behind the applicant and opposes his
request. She questioned whether the city, in fact, dictated the location of the applicant's house.
She said the gazebo was built without permits and is less than three feet from the wall. She said
she has no privacy or view and her property value has been negatively impacted. She stated the
issue has also created tension in the neighborhood. She expressed concern about a possible fire
hazard created by the gazebo's fire pit.
Ms. Dihel confirmed for Boardmember Schwartz that they moved into their house 15 months
ago and Mr. Lightner's house was not visible above the fence at that time.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked what the setback is on Ms. Dihel's property. Mr. Jacobs said a
principal residence in R1 zoning has a 20-foot rear setback, however an accessory building
setback would be determined by the building height. Boardmember Giarrusso asked Ms. Dihel if
she has visualized what the structure would look like if it were set back an additional five feet.
Ms. Dihel agreed the structure's height and impact would be diminished.
Mr. Lightner said he would add a roof if the structure had to be moved back eight feet, resulting
in the same situation.
Boardmember Schwartz asked Mr. Lightner when his house was constructed. Mr. Lightner
stated they received their Certificate of Occupancy on August 1, 2001. He said the house was
framed by mid-December, 2000.
Mr. Jacobs clarified the required setback for the gazebo at its current height is five feet.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked if the City of Glendale would permit the applicant to increase the
height of the existing fence by three feet. Mr. Jacobs said, while a variance could be granted to
increase the height of the wall, any fence over 6 feet would have to be an engineered wall. He
pointed out that a six-foot wall would still be considerably lower than the structure's height. He
agreed the applicant and his neighbor could work together and propose a compromise.
Mr. Jacobs confirmed for Chairperson Ward that the case could be continued and placed on next
month's agenda.
Boardmember Schwartz asked Ms. Dihel if she would be willing to discuss allowing the
applicant to increase the height of the wall as a possible solution. Ms. Dihel said, had the
applicant come to them prior to construction, she might have been more willing to discuss
alternatives. She said everything on the applicant's property is pushed up against her property
line, while the rest of his property is empty. She said increasing the wall's height will do nothing
to improve her view and could make it worse. Boardmember Schwartz asked Ms. Dihel if she is
aware that, if the applicant's request is denied, he could return home and move the structure back
an additional three feet and increase its height without returning to the Board for approval. Ms.
Dihel responded yes.
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Mr. Lightner assured the Board that, if forced to move the gazebo, he will build a roof that will
result in the structure being 18 or 19 feet tall. He said, conversely, he could leave the gazebo
where it is and add a roof for a total height of less than 15 feet. He stated his neighbor's existing
trees would help shield the structure from view and he offered to plant two 24-inch box trees to
further reduce the structure's impact.
Chairperson Ward asked Mr. Lightner if he believes he and his neighbor could work together to
find an acceptable solution. Mr. Lightner reiterated his willingness to purchase trees.
Chairperson Ward closed the public hearing.
Boardmember Giarrusso expressed his opinion they should proceed with the case, stating Ms.
Dihel has indicated she will not be satisfied with any alternative scenario presented. He said he
is troubled by the claims that the city dictated the location of the home and informed the
applicant that a permit was not required for the gazebo. Chairperson Ward stated, while he
understands Boardmember Giarrusso's concern, the Board is not bound by errors made by the
city.
Boardmember Beck agreed the case should be continued to allow the applicant and his neighbors
an opportunity to reach a compromised solution.
Boardmember Schwartz made a MOTION to CONTINUE ZV-02-23 to the Board's
February meeting. Boardmember Marx SECONDED the MOTION.
Chairperson Ward opened the floor to discussion. No further comments were made.
Chairperson Ward called for a Roll Call Vote. The MOTION PASSED by a vote of 6 to 0.
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APPLICATION NO.: ZV-02-24
REQUEST: A request by Scott Rhodes of Jennings Strouss
representing Crosspoint Christian Church for height
variances for the development of a church campus in the
R1-10 (Single Residence, 10,000 square foot minimum
parcel size) zoning district. The request includes: 1) a
building height of 36 feet is proposed for Phases One,
Two, and Four where 30 feet is the maximum building
height allowed by Ordinance. These Phases directly abut
the north side of Glendale Avenue and are the buildings to
be used as the worship hall and Sunday school classrooms
until the worship center is constructed. 2) A building
height of 55 feet is proposed for Phase Three where 30
feet is the maximum building height allowed by
Ordinance. Phase Three contains the worship center and
is located toward the center of the site. The property is a
34.27-acre site and is located at the northwest corner of
85th Avenue and Glendale Avenue (8508 West Glendale
Avenue). Staff Contact: Kate Langford (Yucca District).
Ms. Langford presented the application, reviewing the site and request.
Boardmember Dietzman asked about the anticipated construction time frame. Ms. Langford said
the project is a very long-term campus development with a 15 to 20 year build-out timeframe.
Boardmember Dietzman asked Mr. Jacobs if the Board should be concerned about granting a
variance for so far into the future. Mr. Jacobs said, while there is nothing that prevents the
applicant from requesting the variance now, such a request is not typical to most cases.
In response to Chairperson Ward's question, Ms. Langford said the main ingress/egress occurs
on Glendale Avenue, however, there are several other points of ingress/egress as well.
Commissioner Dietzman asked when 85th Avenue will be completed. Ms. Langford answered
during Phase II.
Scott Rhodes, the applicant's representative, introduced pastors from the church, as well as other
members of their team. He said, after many months of hard work with city staff and a great deal
of cooperation on their part, they are somewhat disappointed by staff's report. He expressed his
opinion the report is incomplete and fails to give a whole picture of the project. He explained the
project represents a turning point for the city, explaining it will be the first "mega church"
project. He said they did not want to appear deceptive by withholding the fact that a 3,500 seat
worship center is planned for the future, therefore the project was developed as a whole from the
beginning. He said, upon city's request, they agreed to go to a R1-10 zoning with a conditional
use permit allowing the church to be built. He pointed out they worked with city staff
throughout the zoning process on all design aspects of the site. He stated their citizen
participation report deliberately stated that a 3,500 seat worship center with a height of up to 55
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feet would be built during Phase III, requiring a height variance of up to 25 feet. He stated they
sent a letter to 1,106 recipients wherein they once again stated the church would apply for height
restriction variances for Phases I, II, III and IV, specifically a 25 foot height variance for the
worship center during Phase III. He stated they held a citizen participation meeting in March, at
which time they fully reviewed their plans for the worship center and the necessary height
variance. He said, to his knowledge, there has been only one written response concerning the
project, noting it was in favor of the project. He pointed out there was no mention of the height
variance issue at the citizen participation meeting. He agreed their project does not fit perfectly
with the city's current guidelines and classifications, noting staff has acknowledged the need to
compile guidelines for large church projects of this sort and had asked them to halt work on the
project in order to participate in that process. He said too much money, time, and effort had been
.put into the project to halt its progress, however, they have offered to participate in the process
once their project is completed. He said he is concerned that complying with staff's request to
delay the project could subject their project to any new rules or regulations developed during the
process and require them to start over again. He expressed his opinion the applicant is in full
compliance with the city's ordinance and that the Board can make the necessary findings to
approve their application for all three phases.
With regard to Finding No. 1, Mr. Rhodes disagreed with staff's finding, noting staff's report
does not mention all of the factors the Board is allowed to consider. He pointed out lowering the
height would have required larger buildings, pushed back further towards the walls surrounding
the proposed residential subdivision. He said representatives of the subdivision have expressed
their appreciation for the applicant's proposed setbacks. He noted the Phase III worship center is
317 feet from the northern property line, 521 feet from the western property line, and 491 feet
from the eastern property line. He stated the project includes a lot of buffering, including a
retention basin and prayer garden. He said the SRP canal that currently runs through their
property will be placed underground during Phase III. He explained the worship center cannot
be moved further forward because it will impede SRP's ability to access their canal. He
reiterated the applicant accepted the R1-10 zoning at the city's request, noting other
classifications were available. He said their cooperation with the city, not the applicant, created
the height restriction, therefore, he believes the finding can be made.
Mr. Rhodes acknowledged their request differs from other requests received by the city, stating,
however, that similar churches are being built throughout the valley. He pointed out the
Glendale Church of the Nazarene has a 36 foot building height, noting they also requested a 60
foot spire and 30 foot cross height. He stated the applicant's project will be seen from a distance,
down a gateway structure, with the other two buildings located in front. He commended the
architects on creating a design that limits the building's height to 55 feet, while still
accommodating 3,500 seats and the necessary audio/visual equipment. He stated Mountainridge
Baptist Church has a steeple height of 45 feet and the First Southern Baptist Church of Glendale
has a 45 foot building height. He noted their project has no steeple and the crosses are located
lower to the ground. He said the Community Church of Joy has a 45 foot building height and a
65 foot spire height.
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Mr. Rhodes said staff's conclusion on Finding 3 concerns them the most because it demonstrates
that they do not fully understand the functional nature of what the applicant is attempting to
accomplish. He explained a worship center for 3,500 people, including video screens,
appropriate acoustics, and a stage, cannot be done with a 30 foot height restriction. He said,
therefore, staff's conclusion ignores the fact that the function of the worship center cannot be
separated from the proposed design. He pointed out that staff's suggestion that the building be
recessed further would locate the building closer to the residents and increasing its footprint
would result in the loss of required parking spaces. He expressed his opinion the requested
variance is the minimum necessary.
With regard to Finding 4, Mr. Rhodes said staff appears to agree with the applicant, suggesting,
however, the applicant does not know if there will be a detrimental effect. He reiterated that
1,100 letters were sent out and no concerns of detrimental effect have been made known. He
said the applicant desires to be a good neighbor and they believe the design will welcome people
to the campus.
Mr. Rhodes explained churches are non-profit organizations that rely on their benefactors for
funding. He stated they are ready to proceed with the construction of Phase I once they receive
approval from the city. He estimated the construction of Phase II to begin five years later, Phase
III five years after that, and Phase IV five years after that.
Boardmember Beck asked to what area the letters were sent. Mr. Rhodes stated they were sent
to the area required by Councilmember Clark, who expanded the area substantially by ordinance.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked if any of the structures would contain basements. Mr. Rhodes
responded no. Boardmember Giarrusso asked what is planned for the surrounding area. Ms.
Langford explained there is a residential subdivision under construction with various residential
zoning districts, existing residences on an A-1 parcel, vacant farm land, an existing mobile home
park, existing A-1 to the east of the property and a commercial opportunity at 83rd Avenue and
Glendale.
Boardmember Schwartz asked if any part of the sanctuary would go below grade. Mr. Rhodes
responded yes, explaining the worship center will go below grade, lowering the building height
by five to six feet. Boardmember Schwartz asked if it could be lowered an additional ten feet.
Mr. Hart, Todd & Associates, explained lowering the building further could result in
accessibility issues and interfere with the sense of personal contact between the pastor and his
congregation.
Chairperson Ward opened the meeting up for public comment on this case.
Barbara Garland, 5012 North 64th Drive, Glendale, stated she opposes the applicant's request.
With regard to the applicant's claim that the additional height is required, in part, to
accommodate refrigeration units, she pointed out the City of Glendale requires residential
refrigeration units be located on the ground. She said the public participation meetings held by
the applicant were a zoning function, not a variance function. She stated the General Plan
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designates the subject area as medium-density residential, low-density residential, and some
multi-family housing. She said the residential developments will not exceed 30 feet in height,
with the majority closer to 15 feet in height. She stated the impact of the applicant's project, as
proposed, would be too great and granting the variance would set a negative precedent for both
established and developing neighborhoods. She expressed her opinion that denial of the variance
would not subject the applicant to differential or unfair treatment, suggesting, rather, that
granting the variance would, in fact, treat neighboring property owners unfairly. She stated there
are no special circumstances related to the property, any hardship the owner is subjected to
would be self-imposed, the owner is not being denied privileges enjoyed by other property
owners, and granting the variance would be materially detrimental to the quality of life in the
subject neighborhood. She asked the Board to deny the applicant's variance request.
Mr. Rhodes explained refrigeration ground units (HVAC) for a building of the proposed size are
extremely expensive, therefore, it is very common to use roof-mounted HVAC. He clarified
there are no requirements in the Conditional Use Permit to locate the refrigeration units on the
ground. He stated the size of the worship center is driven by the functionality of the space. He
said the applicant has devoted substantial resources to reaching out to neighbors and the city and
it would be unfair to ask them to wait until they are ready to proceed with Phase III to obtain the
variance, subjecting them to the laws and requirements in effect at that time.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked what the height of the multi-purpose stadium facility will be. Ms.
Langford said the height of the hockey arena will be 100 feet, whereas the football stadium will
be closer to 200 feet. She said, while there are special height allowances for properties adjacent
to the Loop 101, they do not extend beyond 91St Avenue. Boardmember Giarrusso asked if any
other buildings are being planned in that area that would require similar height variances. Ms.
Langford responded no.
Boardmember Schwartz asked about the height of the North Phoenix Baptist Church. Mr.
Rhodes estimated it to be approximately 65 feet, seating 5,000 occupants.
Mr. Jacobs stated the applicant's request is different from those previously considered by the
Board because, while churches are traditionally located within residential neighborhoods, the
proposed church is not a neighborhood scale facility. He stated the zoning ordinance did not
envision this type of project, therefore the applicant had to work with the existing requirements.
Boardmember Dietzman asked if the properties facing Glendale Avenue will all be C-2 in the
future. Ms. Langford responded no.
Chairperson Ward closed the public hearing.
Boardmember Schwartz made a MOTION to APPROVE ZV-02-24, subject to the
stipulations contained in staff's report. Boardmember Giarrusso SECONDED the
MOTION.
Chairperson Ward opened the floor to discussion.
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Boardmember Schwartz said, given the height of the arena and stadium being developed in the
area, he does not believe the proposed project will be detrimental to the surrounding
neighborhood.
Boardmember Marx said she is impressed with the amount of time and consideration given by
the architects on this project and finds it to be aesthetically pleasing.
Boardmember Dietzman stated the projected timeframe, not see the building's height, is the
issue.
Boardmember Giarrusso said he approves of the applicant's request.
Boardmember Beck stated he has no problem with the building's proposed height.
Chairperson Ward said, while Ms. Garland's comments have been noted, he will support the
applicant's request.
No further comments were made.
Chairperson Ward called for a Roll Call Vote. The MOTION PASSED by a vote of 6 to 0.
The meeting recessed for a short break.
APPLICATION NO.: ZV-02-25
REQUEST: A request by Mr. Ronald Brown, representing First
Southern Baptist Church, for a variance in the R1-7
(Single Residence) zoning district to allow a 60-foot
building height for construction of a cross where 45 is the
current maximum height allowed. The property is located
at 10250 North 59th Avenue. Staff Contact: Tabitha Perry
(Barrel District).
Ms. Perry presented the application, reviewing the site and request.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked if the applicant considered any other options with regard to the
cross's location. Mr. Brown, the applicant's representative, explained Southern Baptist
Churches are well known for a cross at the peak of the church. He said the cross will help
distinguish their church from the adult center and improve its visibility from Peoria Avenue.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked if the cross was part of the applicant's original presentation,
during which they requested a 45 foot height variance. Mr. Brown explained the height was
limited to 45 feet and the applicant was told at that time to return for another variance for the
cross as an additional feature.
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Chairperson Ward asked if any neighbors have voiced opposition to the applicant's request. Ms.
Perry said they have received two phone calls opposing the application.
Chairperson Ward opened the meeting up for public comment on this case. As no comments
were made, he closed the public hearing.
Boardmember Giarrusso made a MOTION to APPROVE ZV-02-25, subject to the
stipulations in staff's report. Boardmember Marx SECONDED the MOTION.
Chairperson Ward opened the floor to discussion.
Board members Giarrusso, Beck, and Marx voiced their support of the application.
Boardmember Schwartz expressed his opinion the applicant could place a larger cross at the
entryway, negating the need for the proposed height variance.
Chairperson Ward said he is troubled by the split variance, although he understands how the
situation came about.
No further comments were made.
Chairperson Ward called for a Roll Call Vote. The MOTION PASSED by a vote of 5 to 1
(Boardmember Schwartz voted nay).
APPLICATION NO.: ZV-02-27
REQUEST: A request by Bruce Daniels to allow 1) a temporary off-
site sales sign on developed property where one sign is
permitted per street frontage on undeveloped property, 2)
center identification monument signs with eleven tenant
names where three tenant names are allowed in the PAD
(Planned Area Development) Zoning district, and 3)
center identification signs of 67 square feet in area where
60 square feet is permitted. The property is located at
17241 North 75th Avenue, 17218 North 72nd Drive, and
17211 North 71st Drive. Staff Contact: John Fukasawa
(Cholla District).
Mr. Fukasawa presented the application, reviewing the site and request.
Boardmember Giarrusso asked when the 18 month time limit referenced in Stipulation 4 would
commence. Mr. Jacobs explained the time limit would begin once the 15 day appeal period has
ended.
In response to Boardmember Dietzman's question, Mr. Fukasawa said the subdivision is allowed
to have temporary on-site sales signs.
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Bruce Daniels, the applicant's representative, explained the city's current ordinance requires
their temporary sign to be within 'h mile of undeveloped property, which is difficult to find. He
said, therefore, Bruce Kettle, the owner of the parcels on 75th Avenue, offered to put their
temporary signage on his property. He asked to have the 18 month time limit changed to require
removal of the signs once 85 percent of the lots have been sold.
Boardmember Beck agreed the property is hidden and needs signs to help direct people to the
site.
Chairperson Ward opened the meeting up for public comment on this case. As no comments
were made, he closed the public hearing.
Mr. Jacobs said, while it would be fine to modify Stipulation 4 to tie removal of the signs to a
percentage of sales, he would prefer some type of time period be set forth also.
Boardmember Schwartz made a MOTION to APPROVE ZV-02-27, subject to the
stipulations contained in staff's report and amending Stipulation 4 to require removal of
the temporary signs once 85 percent of the lots have been sold or within 24 months,
whichever occurs first. Boardmember Dietzman SECONDED the MOTION.
Chairperson Ward opened the floor to discussion. No further comments were made.
Chairperson Ward called for a Roll Call Vote. The MOTION PASSED by a vote of 4 to 2
(Board members Schwartz and Ward voted nay).
Chairperson Ward called for the Planning Staff Report. No report was given.
Chairperson Ward called for Board Comments and Suggestions.
Boardmember Schwartz asked to set aside 30 minutes prior to the next meeting to discuss voting
procedures.
No comments were made.
As there was no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
Sally 'i lward, Recording Secretary