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A R I Z O N A
MINUTES
AUDIT COMMITTEE
CITY HALL, CONFERENCE ROOM A
5850 W. GLENDALE AVE.
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85301
JULY 16, 2019
9:30 A.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Absent a sitting Chair, Mr. Bailey called the meeting to order at 9:38 a.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Raymond Malnar, Councilmember
Ian Hugh, Councilmember
Lauren Tolmachoff, Councilmember
Kevin Phelps, City Manager
Lisette Camacho, Interim Budget and Finance Manager
Also Present: Rob Sweeney, Interim Assistant City Manager
Jean Moreno, Organizational Performance Director
Michael Bailey, City Attorney
Jim Gruber, Chief Deputy City Attorney
3. ELECT CHAIRPERSON
Councilmember Tolmachoff nominated Councilmember Hugh as Chairperson.
Councilmember Malnar made the second. General consensus was reached for
Councilmember Hugh to be the Chairperson with no opposition.
4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
No comments from the public.
5. RULES OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE
Mr. Sweeney provided an overview of the Audit Committee's roles,
responsibilities, powers, and duties as approved by City Ordinance. The
Committee was provided with an information packet and the Yellow Book. Mr.
Sweeney highlighted the following items from a handout, which summarized the
Audit Committee rules as established by Glendale City Codes §2-57(a) through (e)
and 2-58(a) through (e):
• The Audit Committee can establish its procedural rules and bylaws.
• The Audit Committee meetings shall at least be on a quarterly basis should
there be business to conduct. The meetings could be held monthly, if
necessary, but will be scheduled quarterly initially.
• The Audit Committee will complete a periodic risk assessment. This will be
discussed during agenda item 9.
• The Audit Committee needs to forward an approved Audit Plan to City
Council for Council's adoption by June 1 st of every year.
• The Audit Committee has a duty to distribute draft Audit Reports to the City
Manager and final Audit Reports to the City Council.
6. PUBLIC MEMBERS ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE
Mr. Sweeney announced that Glendale City Code §2-56 (A)(2) defines the
prerequisites necessary that members of the public must possess to be qualified to
serve on the Audit Committee:
• Must have some sense of financial reporting, accounting, auditing, or
relevant experience in this regard; and
• Must demonstrate independence by not having any current business
relations with the City of Glendale.
Mr. Sweeney shared the following information:
• There has been tremendous interest, in great part due to outreach by the
Committee Members and their colleagues.
• As of last Friday, the City Clerk has confirmed that there have been ten
individuals who have expressed interest in serving on the Committee.
• Per the City Clerk, the Government Services Committee (GSC) will evaluate
the applications at its August 6th meeting.
• The Vice Mayor and Chair of the GSC has indicated that interviews would
occur the following week.
• Given that timeline, the earliest that public members could be sworn in by
Council would be at the August 27th voting meeting.
Mr. Sweeney added that, while the Code does define the minimum requirements
for members of the Audit Committee, the Audit Committee can establish additional
qualifications for the GSC to consider as they evaluate the applications.
Councilmember Malnar commented that he has been a proponent in that public
members should have a financial background, but also in having a layperson, who
has a voice of the community, and not someone who is only highly technical is
important. Councilmember Malnar has a person in his district that is not a CPA,
but has a financial background. Councilmember Malnar stressed common sense
and a sense of community.
Mr. Phelps explained that there is an appropriate part for citizen oversight, but for
best practices, qualified individuals with relevant experience in the specific world
of auditing is needed for this type of committee.
Councilmember Tolmachoff relayed that the meetings will be open to the public so
any citizen who wants to speak to the Audit Committee will have an opportunity.
Mr. Sweeney will forward to the GSC Councilmember Malnars's position regarding
a layperson's consideration.
7. AUDIT OVERVIEW
Mr. Sweeney announced that staff thought it would be appropriate to provide the
Committee with introductory orientation regarding some generally acceptable
auditing standards, practices, and terminology on audit practices. Mr. Sweeney
explained that the Yellow Book was put together by the federal government's
General Accountability Office and it speaks to how to perform an audit, defining
the elements of an audit, what is and what is not an audit, and defining work
papers.
Mr. Sweeney provided general information on the following:
• The importance of independence in the audit process.
• External versus internal audits and the focus of each.
• Qualitative versus compliance elements.
• Audits and non -audit engagements and examples of the work that could be
involved.
Councilmember Tolmachoff wondered if a report of a fraud allegation from the
Ethics Hotline would go to the Audit Committee or would only go to the Audit
Committee if something was found. Mr. Sweeney replied that a report, and
especially findings, would be brought back to the Audit Committee, because the
findings would be part of the Risk Assessment and Audit Plan that the Audit
Committee is responsible to perform.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked if the Audit Committee would get a quarterly
report of all that came in on the Ethics Hotline.
Mr. Bailey commented that there is a bi-furcated element, Council and the Audit
Committee, and depending on the call, such as if it was an actual allegation of
fraud and an initial investigation confirms the fraud, Council will be notified in
separate due course even outside of the audit element.
Mr. Phelps stated that the Audit Committee could determine how the Ethics
Hotline reporting would work and stressed that whoever handles the Ethics
Hotline is to provide a confidential vehicle for reporting. Mr. Phelps noted that
prior practice had the person manning the Ethics Hotline with the feeling that they
had the responsibility to do the investigation. Mr. Phelps explained that now, an
allegation of fraudulent or criminal behavior will go directly to the City Attorney's
Office who maydirectly engage the Police Department, an outside agency, or the
Maricopa County Prosecutor's Office. Mr. Phelps commented that it all depends
on the type of allegation. Mr. Phelps stated that over the last couple of years,
there have been a handful of calls each year. Mr. Phelps relayed that the role of
the firm that will be hired is to conduct intake, to make sure the report is assigned
appropriately, and to make the Audit Committee aware that there was an
allegation that something took place.
Mr. Sweeney continued with his orientation on the following topics:
• Types of audits:
• Compliance (contracts, policies, regulations)
• Performance audits (qualitative, efficiency, effectiveness)
• Examples of audit questions and areas of review were shared.
Mr. Phelps stressed the role of accountability and compliance and noted that for a
mature organization, performance audits provide a great benefit at an elevated
level.
Mr. Sweeney continued with the following:
• Audit Plan and elements included in the plan.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked if cybersecurity was included in the annual
audit.
Mr. Sweeney indicated that cybersecurity would be included in the external audits
on an annual basis in relation to the City's ability to take credit card payments.
Ms. Camacho noted that the IT department does have external vendors, who
periodically, some quarterly and some annually, try to replicate a breach to see if
the City can be breached.
Councilmember Tolmachoff commented that there have been some cities over the
last few years who have been compromised.
Mr. Bailey commented that this would be operational security compliance, not an
audit function.
Mr. Phelps noted this was an example of audit and non -audit work and provided
examples of the difference in regards to the IT department.
Ms. Camacho added that as part of the comprehensive annual financial report
external audit, Clifton, Larson, and Allen does perform an IT audit as part of the
package.
Mr. Sweeney continued with the orientation on the following topics:
• The Audit Plan — including audit follow-up
• Non -audit work: independent consulting and advisory services
• Quality Control Review: Who audits the Auditors?
• Periodic Peer Review
• Mr. Phelps noted that this was the area that the City was most efficient
in, however, the Risk Assessment and the Quality Control were the
parts whereby standards were not followed, which did not mean the
work was incorrect, it was just that standards were not followed. Mr.
Phelps assured going forward, staff will ensure that the work going
forward is meeting all of the standards and is correct.
Mr. Sweeney concluded the orientation.
8. ETHICS HOTLINE
Mr. Sweeney announced that during the Budget Workshop, staff had
recommended a change to the Ethics Hotline process which was to hire an
external firm to handle the direct phone intake and provide a multi -modal aspect
for staff members to submit complaints of ethics violations or concerns in an
anonymous fashion. Mr. Sweeney reported that staff is currently working with the
Procurement Office in regards to obtaining quotes to make this selection and
results will be brought back to the Audit Committee for consideration.
Mr. Sweeney stated that the Hotline phone number will remain the same, there
will be ethics review/training for all employees, and a roll-out of the program.
Councilmember Tolmachoff stated that on the previous Hotline, there was no way
for the Hotline staff to engage or follow up with the callers for more details.
Mr. Sweeney replied that all of the firms offer these services, however, employees
must be assured of anonymity if they so choose. Mr. Sweeney noted that the
firms do avail themselves to be an intermediary and can make point of contact
should the employee provide their information. Mr. Sweeney explained that
information is logged in a portal and there is a way in which to obtain more
information, even if it is anonymously called in.
9. RISK ASSESSMENT
Mr. Sweeney stated that staff would like to start to engage in conversations with
department heads regarding risk factors that may be presenting. Mr. Sweeney
provided a briefing on the following elements: risk management and how it relates
to local government and risk operations, regulatory and legal risks, complexity of
operations, reputation risk, the need for proper controls, and the degree of
change.
Mr. Sweeney shared an example of how to look at risk, including considering
levels of inherent risk, residual risk, impact, and control effectiveness. Mr.
Sweeney commented that the focus of the risk assessment resources needs to be
placed on areas where there is great opportunity to improve or there is great
opportunity from a risk perspective.
10. INTERNAL AUDITS PENDING
Mr. Sweeney stated that staff proposes to bring the current outstanding draft audit
work to the Committee and have further conversation in detail. Some of the audits
currently outstanding include physical security, HIPAA compliance, Fire Marshall
operations, and a governance audit regarding the employee survey. Mr. Sweeney
relayed that staff recommends a future agenda item regarding current status of
outstanding audits, and when in draft form and ready to be distributed to City
management, that these would be discussed in a confidential manner relative to
state law in an executive meeting.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked if there were any audits in progress at the time.
Mr. Sweeney stated that there were others: one regarding right-of-way
maintenance and one regarding recruitment processes in human resources.
Mr. Phelps stated that the human resources audit was the result of a call to the
Ethics Hotline. Mr. Phelps asked which audits were internal.
Mr. Sweeney replied that the Fire Marshalls audit and right-of-way landscaping
were internal audits.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked if there as a pavement management audit.
Mr. Sweeney was not familiar with the audit but will follow up.
Mr. Bailey thought this was contemplated but might not have been done.
Councilmember Malnar asked if staff was going to bring recommendations to the
Committee for focus areas for the 2020 audit.
Mr. Sweeney explained that staff will bring back to the Committee the risk
assessment process that staff is performing this summer and there may be other
audit subjects to be discussed that could be included in the Audit Plan.
Councilmember Malnar requested an overview of potential audits, such as a
matrix for different departments and the types of audits that could be done.
Mr. Phelps stated that audit suggestions would still need to be run through the
inherent risk and residual risk model, so not to expend resources in an area with a
low likelihood of changing the practice or making an improvement. Mr. Phelps felt
that there was great opportunity in performance audits. Mr. Phelps suggested
possibly a performance audit on right-of-way maintenance.
Mr. Sweeney commented that staff will bring back audits that must be complete,
such as for state compliance. Mr. Sweeney stated that the Audit Plan would
include those that must be done, and also compliance audits and performance
audits.
Mr. Phelps explained the differences between economy, efficiency, effectiveness,
and equity in regards to performance audits, and provided specific examples.
Councilmember Malnar asked if there could be crossover of economy, efficiency,
effectiveness, and equity.
Mr. Phelps replied in the positive and added that at times, one type could lead to
another.
11. COMMITTEE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
None.
12. NEXT MEETING
Councilmember Hugh requested staff's recommendation on a date for the next
Audit Committee meeting.
Mr. Sweeney stated that the next meeting could be held after the public members
are appointed on August 27th at the Council meeting, such as perhaps in early
September.
Councilmember Malnar recommended waiting until after the public member
appointments to set a date. Councilmember Tolmachoff and Councilmember Hugh
agreed.
13. ADJOURNMENT
Councilmember Hugh confirmed there were no further comments and adjourned
the meeting at 10:39 a.m.
The Audit Committee meeting minutes of July 16, 2019 were submitted
and approved this 3rd day of October, 2019.
Je Moreno
Executive Officer
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