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BUSINESS COUNCIL COMMITTEE
CITY HALL, CONFERENCE ROOM 2A
5850 WEST GLENDALE AVENUE
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85301
THURSDAY, AUGUST 15TH, 2019
2:00 PM
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 2 PM.
ROLL CALL
Committee members present: Vice Mayor Chairperson Joyce Clark, Vice Chairperson Bart
Shea and Councilmember Ray Malnar, Yvonne Knaack, Ricardo Toris, and Dale Adams
Committee members absent: Council Member Lauren Tolmachoff and John Crow
City staff present: Eric Fitzer (Development Services Director), Lisa Rastovsky-Collins
(Interim Planning Administrator), Vicki Rios (Assistant City Manager), Lisette Camacho
(Interim Budget & Finance Director), Robert Birr (Interim Tax & License Manager, Paul Lopez
(Customer Service Manager)
CITIZEN COMMENTS
There were no citizens present, so Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark did not call for citizen
comments.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
A motion to approve the June meeting minutes was made by Ms. Knaack and it was seconded by
Councilmember Malnar. All were in favor, and none opposed.
ITEMS
a. City Business Licensing Code Review presented by Assistant City Manager Vicki Rios
Ms. Rios introduced Ms. Camacho, Mr. Birr and Mr. Lopez. Ms. Rios outlined the code
review planned for the committee. Mr. Lopez began the slideshow presentation by discussing the
history of licensing in Glendale. There are two types of licensing: transition privileging licensing
and city business licenses, and the latter licensing is the topic of discussion.
Food trucks, towing companies, and other temporary businesses are those who are
currently affected by the city business license. Mr. Lopez proposed altering the wording
"entering in the city from an outside location" from the current code, and therefore exempting
businesses with no physical, permanent presence within the city.
Councilmember Malnar wondered how the city's taxes would be affected, and Ms. Rios
did admit that this made monitoring taxes more difficult. It would be a matter of ensuring that the
businesses are reporting to the TPT correctly. Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark asked who would
be in charge of this monitoring, but Ms. Rios stated that there are two licensing analysts that
would be oversee this. Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark then expressed concerns about businesses
not being honest in their locations for tax purposes; Ms. Rios was understanding of her concerns,
and she explained that was why this code is currently up for review.
Mr. Shea asked to clarify the differences in licenses and had concerns about how the city
ensures that the licenses are enforced. Ms. Knaack asked how many cities in the valley have
done away with the licensing. Ms. Rios stated that Phoenix does not have a license (only TPT).
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark also expressed concerns about enforcing this with temporary
businesses. Councilmember Malnar respectfully disagreed because if the business has a TPT
(which is required), businesses must report to the city if they are reporting to the state; however,
the issue with this is that the tax may be paid, but it may be paid only in the city that the business
was founded in or where the owner resides (not where the actual business takes place).
Councilmember Malnar added that dishonest people are dishonest, but those that have been
honest with the process thus far will likely remain honest.
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark requested how much revenue was accrued last year, and
Councilmember Malnar asked how the city tracks the TPT licensing. Ms. Rios did not have the
revenue at present, and Ms. Rios then stated that they track the licensing in a variety of ways.
Mr. Toris asked what the consequences are for those who aren't paying their fee; Ms. Rios stated
that there's a penalty and a fee. Ms. Knaack was concerned with how this will affect the
neighboring cities as well. Councilmember Malnar asked if the city asks "what cities will you be
servicing?" and have them file sales tax for each city they are servicing. Mr. Birr explained that
they do have to list their location codes on their TPT if they are a mobile vendor. Ms. Rios added
that businesses are required to do this, but whether or not they actually do these tasks is up to the
taxpayer.
Councilmember Malnar asked why these cities in the East Valley and Phoenix area are
not charging for temporary businesses; Ms. Rios stated that it was not cost-effective to attempt to
collect the fees, so they ceased to do this. Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark asked for an alternative
method to track and adjust for this; Ms. Rios stated that there have not been any losses since state
legislation has been involved (there has actually been an increase). Ms. Rios explained that the
main focus of this is meant to not change anything with businesses except for the temporary (or
pop-up) businesses. Ms. Knaack explained that this idea doesn't seem to be a bad one, but it is
simply a matter of enforcing the codes in place.
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark still wanted to review the revenue from the temporary
businesses, and Ms. Rios agreed to provide that information at a later time. Councilmember
Malnar asked if there is a way to know how many temporary businesses are also paying out to
other cities. Ms. Rios explained that if they report in that fashion, it's not incorrect since they are
mobile businesses.
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark asked to table the discussion until further information is
provided at the September meeting. Councilmember Malnar made a motion, and Mr. Adams
seconded. All in favor, and none opposed.
Mr. Lopez stated that there are other business licensing policy issues. In the current
licensing code, the location is undefined. The proposed change would alter three elements of the
code. 1) Define the location as a physical business address located in the city. 2) Define
"landlord" as a "person or entity renting commercial properties in the city." 3) Now allow
multiple locations to be covered under one license.
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Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark asked how the fees are processed, and Ms. Rios explained
that it's up to the Business Council Committee to make adjustments to it as they see fit. Ms. Rios
clarified that the businesses licenses would be required for those who are renting the building to
someone else. Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark requested a sliding scale of some kind in regards to
the fees per business. Ms. Knaack opposed this idea due to the minimal revenue from these fees,
but Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark claimed that the fees can ultimately add up to a substantial
amount over time.
Ms. Knaack made a motion to approve these changes, and Mr. Shea seconded. All in
favor, and none opposed.
Mr. Birr introduced concerns with possible exemptions from business licensing. These
exemptions would be for city, state, and federal government entities, taxis and other driving
services, childcare, babysitting, resident rentals over 28 -day period, real estate agents, home-
based education. Ms. Rios explained that this code is meant to match up with state statutes and
prevent unnecessary transferring from "one pocket to another" within the city. Ms. Rios then
extemporized about each type of businesses noted by Mr. Birr. Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark
asked to add a definition of what defines a "home occupation" and what defines a "business."
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark asked for a motion to approve this with pending
refinement to the last item. Councilmember Malnar made a motion, and Bart Shea seconded.
Mr. Birr continued discuss current code enforcement. Currently, the code does not
specifically allow for licensing inspections, it does not specifically allow for waiving of fees, it
does not specifically state the due date of licensing fees, it does not specify that a postmark could
be a validation of timely payment, it does not address the change in business location, and it does
not specifically state "a license will not be renewed if the business fails to follow other codes and
ordinances." The proposal is that these are added to the code.
Mr. Toris asked for an example of why the city would waive a fee. Ms. Rios explained
that an excusable late fee or a business opening at the very end of the year would be a just cause
for waiving a fee. Mr. Toris asked who makes the decisions to waive the fees. Ms. Rios stated
that it would depend on the amount, but generally, someone part of the city staff would waive the
fee. Ms. Rios explained that the current codes do not specify that the city staff has the ability to
ask a business to see their license, which is also an issue.
Councilmember Malnar asked if this would include home inspections based on the fact
that home businesses occur. If there would be complaints for in-home businesses, the city staff
can request a resident to see TPT licensing. Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark stated that the
committee is leaning towards supporting this, but she requested clarifying language.
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark asked for a motion to table this discussion until the above
requested information is presented. Councilmember Malnar made a motion, and Ms. Knaack
seconded. All in favor, and none opposed.
Councilmember Malnar asked if contractors licenses will follow the same codes, but Ms.
Rios stated that she will clarify this after additional research. Ms. Knaack asked if any
recategorizing of businesses has caused issues. Ms. Rios asked to hold off until a schedule
discussion of TPT will take place. Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark suggested planning on this
discussion for the next meeting.
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b. Development Services Report presented by Eric Fitzer Development Services Director.
Mr. Fitzer introduced Ms. Rastovsky-Collins and her new role with the city of Glendale.
Ms. Rastovsky-Collins discussed her experience with working for a city and her other work
experience as well. Mr. Fitzer stated that there is a slow transition with the developments, but it's
a positive transition.
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark asked if they have considered doing a survey in
responsiveness and accountability. Mr. Shea asked about policies in regards to street lighting
depicted in plan submissions, and Mr. Fitzer needed to confer with the Engineering department.
c. Review of parking regulations
Although this was on the agenda; however, the committee did not get the opportunity to
discuss this item.
d. Signage
Although this was on the agenda; however, the committee did not get the opportunity to
discuss this item.
e. Future Agenda Items
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark explained that the committee will not necessarily be in
place forever, but she wanted to note of the great things the committee has completed. The
changes in the building codes with the help of Mr. Shea and Mr. Crow's initiative about
accountability and changing the culture of the work force were the biggest successes, according
to Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark.
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark then stated that the council has approved the funding for
the rewriting of the codes. Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark provided the committee with a list to
help determine what areas they should address, so the consultant has some direction. For the next
meeting, Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark requested the committee members determine what areas
need to be focused on over the next few months during the committee meetings.
Mr. Toris asked if the consultant is responsible for the zoning ordinances or all the city
codes. Eric Fitzer stated that the consultant covers the zoning ordinances and the nuisance codes.
Vice Mayor Chairperson Clark then stated that the committee needs to narrow their focus.
After some committee discussion, chapters 28 and 19 would be under the purview of the
consultant. A discussion of signage began, but it was tabled until a later meeting since they grew
short on time at this meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
No other business was discussed.
STAFF REPORT
No staff reports were discussed.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
There were no committee comments or suggestions made.
NEXT MEETING
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The next meeting will take place on September 19th, 2019, at 2 PM.
ADJOURNMENT
Ms. Knaack made a motion to adjourn the meeting, and it was seconded by Councilmember
Malnar.
The meeting adjourned at approximately 3:44 PM.
Sherry Crapser, Recording Secretary
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