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CITIZENS TRANSPORTATION OVERSIGHT COMMISSION
GLENDALE TRANSPORTATION OFFICE
6210 W. MYRTLE AVENUE — BUILDING A, SUITE 111
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85301
SEPTEMBER 5, 2019
6:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Geurs called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Chair Geurs took roll call and noted that the following members informed staff they would be
absent: Vice Chair Fernandes and commissioners Nesfield, O'Connor, and Sund.
Present: John Geurs, Chair
Chris Fundis, Commissioner
Chris Hauser, Commissioner
Chuck Jared, Commissioner
Jack Nylund, Commissioner
Barbara Rose, Commissioner
Joan Young, Commissioner
Absent: John Fernandes, Vice Chair
Marie Nesfield, Commissioner
John O'Connor, Commissioner
Christopher Sund, Commissioner
Also Present: Purab Adabala, Transportation Planning Administrator
Patrick Sage, Transportation Planner
Marilu Garcia, Transportation Analyst
Trevor Ebersole, Transportation Department Director
Kevin Link, Transit Administrator
Kurt Christianson, Assistant City Attorney
Vicki Rios, Assistant City Manager
Lisette Camacho, Interim Director Budget & Finance
Attendees: Joe Gregory
Matt Taunton
Jessica Parks
3. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA - WITHDRAWALS AND CONTINUANCES
ACTION BY CTOC: Approval of the agenda for the September 5, 2019 Citizens Transportation
Oversight Commission as submitted.
Motioned by Commissioner Barbara Rose, seconded by Commissioner Chuck Jared
AYE: Chair John Geurs
Commissioner Chris Fundis
Commissioner Chris Hauser
Commissioner Chuck Jared
Commissioner Jack Nylund
Commissioner Barbara Rose
Commissioner Joan Young
Other: Vice Chair John Fernandes (ABSENT)
Commissioner Marie Nesfield (ABSENT)
Commissioner John O'Connor (ABSENT)
Commissioner Christopher Sund (ABSENT)
Passed
4. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
ACTION BY CTOC: approval of the minutes from the August 1, 2019 meeting of the Citizens
Transportation Oversight Commission with the following changes:
• Item 7, second paragraph: change "$100 million" to "$50 million"
• Item 8, fourth bullet point: change "Barking" to "Parking"
Motioned by Commissioner Jack Nylund, seconded by Commissioner Chuck Jared
AYE: Chair John Geurs
Commissioner Chris Fundis
Commissioner Chris Hauser
Commissioner Chuck Jared
Commissioner Jack Nylund
Commissioner Barbara Rose
Commissioner Joan Young
Other: Vice Chair John Fernandes (ABSENT)
Commissioner Marie Nesfield (ABSENT)
Commissioner John O'Connor (ABSENT)
Commissioner Christopher Sund (ABSENT)
Passed
6. CITIZEN COMMENTS
No comments.
6. GO PROGRAM AUDIT - BUDGET & FINANCE DEPARTMENT
Ms. Camacho and Ms. Rios discussed the GO Program recent audit findings related to
the Budget and Finance Department.
Ms. Camacho addressed the audit finding where indirect costs are now being changed to the
Transportation GO Program. Ms. Camacho explained the indirect cost are costs incurred by the
Transportation Department for support services from other city departments that include Human
Resources, IT, and others, and were previously paid out of the General Fund. These
Transportation Department costs have now been allocated to the Transportation fund, as they
represent the Transportation Department's share of support department costs. The indirect cost
allocations and charges to Transportation are part of the budget process. The budget is adopted
and approved by Council.
Commissioner Nylund asked for more information regarding an audit finding where the city's CIP
manual was reported as no longer available. Chair Geurs commented that the auditor indicated
that the document was not available for department use. Ms. Rios explained that the CIP manual
is undergoing an update process by the Budget/Finance and Engineering departments, but staff
is still following the procedures and controls in the existing manual. Ms. Rios will look into the
availability of the existing version of the manual. Ms. Rios assured that the processes and
controls in the exiting version of the manual are still being followed.
Commissioner Nylund referred to cost overruns in the audit. Mr. Ebersole believed that this was
a previous reference to a change order in the scope of a project. Mr. Ebersole explained that any
change order that is outside of the allowable amount goes back to Council for approval.
Commissioner Nylund commented that the impression may have been due to the way the issue
was presented to the Commission by the audit presenter and it appears that staff has a handle
on the process and is getting Council approvals.
Commissioner Nylund inquired if the Budget & Finance Department is the "watchdog" for
projects. Mr. Ebersole replied in the positive and stressed that there are three watchdogs: the
department who owns the project, the Finance Department, and Engineering.
Commissioner Nylund asked when there would be an update CIP manual. Ms. Camacho replied
that the manual update would be finalized by June 30, 2020 but hoped it would be sooner. Ms.
Rios explained that the City recently implemented a new financial system and the old CIP manual
needs to be updated with directives for the new system.
Chair Geurs inquired as to the amount of indirect costs for Transportation. Ms. Rios replied that
the amount was $1.4 million. Chair Geurs asked for clarification of this amount. Ms. Rios
explained that initially, there was no indirect cost allocation to the GO Transportation Fund. In
addition, an annual $900,000 was transferred from the General Fund to Transportation to
support various department costs. To more accurately allocate Transportation Department
costs, the $900,000 General Fund transfer has been terminated and the $1.4 million indirect cost
allocation to Transportation was implemented. Mr. Ebersole noted that the GO Fund went for
four years without paying indirect costs, with the General Fund carrying that burden for those
years.
Commissioner Nylund commented that the City is getting more money back in the General Fund.
Ms. Rios explained that the indirect cost amount is still the same back to the General Fund, it is
now just allocated between more departments, as Transportation, Water, Solid Waste, and
Landfill were not included in the previous allocation. Therefore, there is no additional amount
going back into the General Fund. Ms. Rios explained that if the GO Fund ran as a standalone, it
would have to pay for IT, legal, human resources, and other services. The General Fund is
providing these services for efficiency of scale across the city departments, and then charging
back costs to departments.
Commissioner Nylund asked if the indirect costs were fluid. Ms. Rios explained that the costs are
updated periodically, but they are not fluid.
Chair Geurs wondered how staff ensures that the charges to the GO Fund are the correct,
proportionate share. Ms. Rios explained that there are three pieces to the Transportation
Department: General Fund, HURF, and Go Tax and noted that the allocation model ensures
proper breakout. Chair Geurs inquired as to the grand total allocation for Transportation. Mr.
Adabala stated that it was $2.6 million. Chair Geurs wanted to ensure that GO is paying only its
fair share. Ms. Rios stated that the cost allocation is not relative to the source revenues.
Commissioner Nylund thanked Ms. Camacho and Ms. Rios for their attendance and information.
7. GLENDALE TRANSIT PLAN
Mr. Gregory introduced the Glendale Transit Plan to the Commission, and Mr. Taunton briefly
described the expected plan components.
Commissioner Nylund inquired as to how the plan is funded. Mr. Gregory replied that the funding
comes from the overall regional tax and it is allocated in the Valley Metro budget for two plans
per year. Commissioner Nylund asked if the City website would be used for outreach. Mr.
Gregory will work with the Council Office for a list of events, use social media, an email list, and
more.
Chair Geurs noted that Glendale halted the light rail plans into Glendale; however, Phoenix has
continued on and wondered how this would impact Glendale. Mr. Gregory replied that the plan
will need to assess all Phoenix transit options that connect to Glendale, since the plan goal is to
ensure that Glendale is integrated with regional connections.
Commissioner Jared suggested a vehicle from downtown Glendale to the arena for Coyotes
games. Mr. Gregory explained that this would be more of a special event transit need and Valley
Metro does not generally provide for that type of service. Mr. Gregory commented that the
Coyotes are a private enterprise and using public funds to directly support a private enterprise is
often controversial. Mr. Gregory added that if such a route were implemented, regular stops
would have to be made along the way similar to the existing route that travels to the arena area.
Chair Geurs inquired if the plan would evaluate flexible bus schedules, noting that the buses are
busy in the morning and night, but empty during the day. Mr. Gregory replied that there must be
standards and specific schedules for the public to rely on.
Commissioner Young inquired about a timeline for the plan. Mr. Gregory relayed that the plan will
be finished this fiscal year. Mr. Taunton announced that the Regional Origin/Destination Survey
was just completed and there will be good data from this report to utilize.
Commissioner Hauser asked if Valley Metro was looking at app -based ticketing; he recently
used it in San Diego and Houston. Mr. Gregory replied positive and stated that this is end -goal,
but takes time to get there.
Commissioner Nylund asked if annual passes are available, such as for seniors. Mr. Gregory
stated that passes are sold monthly and for a semester for ASU students. Ms. Parks explained
that seniors have a reduced fair which is subsidized through the various cities, there are
employer passes, and youth passes. Ms. Parks added that all types of pass options have been
considered and there are concerns with pass replacements: for example, losing a monthly pass
is far less costly (in replacement costs) than losing an annual pass. Commissioner Nylund
wondered when the last plan was done for Glendale. Mr. Dudley stated that the City did a plan
in 2008.
Mr. Sage asked if there are milestones in the plan process where the Commission would be
engaged. Mr. Gregory reported that he will present back to the Commission after the first phase
of the plan and after the final is done.
Commissioner Young inquired if Valley Metro has all of the information needed to move forward.
Mr. Gregory stated that they work closely with transit staff. Mr. Link, and others to stay on track
with what the City is looking for.
The agenda item was concluded.
8. GUS BUS TRACKER
Mr. Dudley gave a presentation on the recently implemented real-time bus tracker for the
Glendale Urban Shuttle (GUS) neighborhood circulators, which included the following:
• GUS Bus Tracker: DoubleMap overview and app features.
• Target Users
• User Goals
• Agency Goals
• Ridership and Reporting Data: Graph displayed
• Next Steps: new bus stops, outreach, geo-targeted social media, signage at bus stops.
Mr. Dudley reported that there are currently 2.3 million rides per year and 100,000 riders per
year; however, the rider count may include duplicates. Mr. Dudley stated that the department is
procuring a new 35 -foot bus.
Chair Geurs asked if all GUS bus stops were also Valley Metro stops. Mr. Dudley replied that
many of the stops are the same; however, there are some standalone GUS stops as well. Mr.
Dudley announced that the new signs at stops with the DoubleMap information will be rolled out
in about a month.
Chair Geurs reported that people jaywalk at the 55th Avenue stop. Mr. Dudley was aware of this
and informed the commission that the department has an ongoing dialogue with Walmart and the
developer of the shopping complex to identify a solution.
Mr. Dudley played a new public outreach video on the GUS Bus Tracker.
Chair Geurs commented that many seniors do not use smartphones. Mr. Geurs stated that it is
surprising how many seniors do use smartphones and are very proficient with the technology
Commissioner Nylund commented that the "Always Free" tagline in the video is very good
phrase and should be used in all promotions and that the new bus design is very colorful.
Mr. Dudley stated that staff is working on an app that integrates Dial -A -Ride with the services of
an Uber/Lyft app, and the pilot project will be brought to the Commission when ready. Mr. Dudley
noted that Glendale is the first city in the valley region utilizing a bus tracker app.
9. ACTING CHAIR FOR OCTOBER MEETING
Chair Geurs and Vice Chair Fernandes will not be present at the October meeting. Commissioner
Fundis volunteered to serve as Acting Chair. No opposition was voiced.
10. MANAGER'S REPORT
Mr. Adabala provided updates on the following items:
• Northern Parkway - Dysart Road to 111th Avenue
• Northern Parkway - Grand Avenue to 99th Avenue
• Pavement Management Program Update/Needs
• Transportation Plan Needs Exercise
• Camelback Road Reconstruction
• MAG Funding Opportunities
11. COMMISSIONER UPDATES
Commissioner Nylund reported that the pavement management work is nearly done in
Arrowhead Ranch Phase III and the feedback that he has received is very good. Commissioner
Nylund complimented the City's communication with the residents on the project and also
praised the contractor.
12. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Commissioners may suggest items for placement on future meeting agendas.
13. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Citizens Transportation Oversight Commission will be held on
Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:00 p.m.
14. _ ADJOURNMENT
Chair Geurs adjourned the meeting at 7:40 p.m.
The itize Transportation Oversight Commission meeting minutes of September 5th, 2019 were
submi e d approved this 3rd day of October, 2019.
Patrick Sage
Recording Secretary