HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Minutes - Citizens Utility Advisory Commission - Meeting Date: 10/2/2019Glendale
A R I Z O N A
MINUTES
CITIZENS UTILITY ADVISORY COMMISSION
OASIS WATER CAMPUS
7070 NORTHERN AVE.
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85303
OCTOBER 2, 2019
6:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Jonathan Liebman, Chair
Ronald Short, Vice Chair
Larry Flatau, Member
Amber Ford, Commissioner
Absent: Robin Berryhill, Commissioner
Also Present: Kerri Logan, Water Services Deputy Director
Michelle Woytenko, Public Works Director
Angela Ruffalo, Water Services Management Assistant
Katrina Alberty, Water Services Administrator
Megan Sheldon, Water Services Deputy Director
Ron Serio, Water Services Deputy Director
Silvana Burgos, Environmental Resources Program Assistant
Drew Swieczkowski, Environmental Program Manager
Robert Perez, Field Operations Business Analyst
3. CITIZEN COMMENTS
None.
4. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
Motion by Commissioner Flatau, second by Commissioner Ford, to approve the September
4, 2019 Citizens Utility Advisory Commission meeting minutes as written. Motion carried 5
—0.
5. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Ms. Kerri Logan, Water Services Administration Deputy Director, announced that Mr. Craig
Johnson, Director of Water Services was unable to attend this evening's meeting due to illness.
Ms. Michelle Woytenko, Public Works Director, gave an update on the recycling program, which
included the following highlights:The City of Surprise has suspended its recycling program.
. The City of Mesa has recommended changes to its recycling program.
• Glendale does not compare directly to these cities as it is only one of two cities in the valley
with its own Materials Recycling Facility (MRF). Phoenix is the other. All other valley cities
bear the recycling costs in their solid waste collection fees. Glendale has a little more
insulation from the market variables.
• Since the last update, recycle markets have remained flat for the City. Glendale is at a
disadvantage because Waste Management and Republic Services have a large market
share. However, the City can also hold onto its aluminum commodity until it receives a good
price. The paper commodity cannot be stored for as long due to deterioration.
• Many cities in the valley and nationally are re -looking at their recycling programs.
• Surprise is suspending its program and will see if it can develop an alternative. An IGA with
Glendale may be considered, but Glendale will need to ensure the IGA covers its costs.
Surprise's spends $200,000 annually on its recycling program.
• Mesa had three different recycling service vendors and they are experiencing a large
increased processing cost for a small return. Mesa suspended its neighborhood drop-off
locations because there is a cost to man those locations. Glendale has two unmanned
drop-off locations: at the downtown library and at the Glendale landfill. There have been no
contamination issues with these drop-off sites.
• Staff has looked at low- to no -cost glass recycling but has not been successful in finding a
company that will do a bin program. Staff is in discussions with several grocery stores and
Walmart to see if there are any possibilities in working with them.
Chair Liebman wondered when the 2020 CUAC topic calendar would be drafted. Ms. Logan
replied that the Government Services Committee has instructed that agenda topics should be
determined in February 2020 to coincide with the new Chair and Vice Chair appointments. Chair
Liebman suggested including recycling updates.
6. BALANCED SCORECARD
Ms. Logan gave a presentation on the Water Services Department Balanced Scorecard, which
included the following information:
• City of Glendale Mission: We improve the lives of the people we serve everyday
• Priorities
• Our Community
• Our Finances
• Our Processes
• Our Organization
• Objectives: Full List Provided by Ms. Logan.
• Improve Asset Management
• Improved Asset Tracking/Financial Planning
• Water Services has approximately $800 million in total assets
• Perpetual Inventory System
• Lucity:
• Enterprise Asset Management Software
• New work order management system
• Replaces Hansen, which is the current system
• Improve Purposeful Communication
• Increase digital connectivity with our community and employees
• Example: Water webisodes
• Example: Glendale Working For You video. A recent video was played.
• Trying to do a better job of explaining what the Department does and why
• Strengthen Workforce Culture
• Core Competencies
• Behaviors we want to display; technical and soft skills
• Performance Management
• Customer Relations Management (CRM) System
Ms. Logan commented that Tier 2 objectives are still being worked on. Ms. Logan added that ten
to twelve staff members are being gathered to determine strategic objectives and Mr. Perez and
Ms. Woytenko have volunteered to serve as advisors to Water Services' team.
Chair Liebman inquired where the CIP falls into the strategies. Mr. Perez replied that it depended
on the philosophy and purpose of the capital expenditure.
Chair Liebman asked about bonding. Ms. Woytenko replied that bonding was a financing method
and if it is seen that the department is falling behind on asset management, bonding for CIP could
be considered.
Chair Liebman asked if there would be many video clips for water webisodes/Glendale Working
For You. Ms. Logan replied in the positive and noted that there is a library of videos.
Chair Liebman wondered what CRM system was being used currently. Ms. Alberty replied that
QScend was being utilized at this time.
Commissioner Flatau noted the numerous uses of the words "improve" and/or "optimize" and
commented that with the City's limited resources, perhaps the word "sustain" should also be used.
Ms. Logan replied that staff is always looking to improve. Commissioner Flatau understood,
however relayed that at times, with limited resources, it is efficient to sustain if things are going
well.
Vice Chair Short relayed that he watched the fourth water conservation video and it was very good.
Commissioner Ford wondered when staff would begin on the strategic objectives. Ms. Logan
hoped to begin in November and estimated it would take three to four workshops.
Commissioner Ford stressed the use of the video clips and similar to highlight the positives in the
Department/City, as people hear so much bad news.
Commissioner McGrew asked if the Lucity software was off-the-shelf and able to be modified or
being built specifically for the City. Ms. Logan replied that Lucity is already being used by other
cities. Mr. Serio indicated that the City of Peoria and other valley cities use Lucity and commented
on the thorough selection process. Mr. Serio stated that Phase 1 of the system has already been
implemented and is now in use and Phase 2 is expected to go live in 2020. Ms. Woytenko
indicated that the Transportation Department already uses Lucity.
Vice Chair Short asked if the Hansen software would be eliminated city-wide. Mr. Serio
responded that the Development Services Department is the only department left using Hansen
and they are looking at alternatives.
The agenda item was concluded.
7. DIRECT POTABLE WATER REUSE
Mr. Swieczkowski gave a presentation on Direct Potable Reuse (DPR), which included the
following information:
110H1001-9111ftl[C •--
• DPR Rule Change
• January 2018: DPR prohibition lifted
• July 2018: ADEQ asks for projects
• What is DPR?
• DPR uses A+/B+ effluent to produce potable water
• DPR uses advanced treatment processes for the A+/B+ effluent
• Classes of Effluent in Arizona
• Five reclaimed water quality classes: A+, A, B+, B, C
• All classes have corresponding allowable end uses
• Details on each class were provided
• Class A+/A allowed uses:
• Irrigation of food crops
• Recreational impoundments
• Residential/schoolyard irrigation
•Toilet & urinal flushing
• Fire protection systems
• Snowmaking
• And more
• Types of Reuse
• Direct Reuse
• Effluent used directly for irrigation, water features, etc.
• Indirect Reuse
• Effluent that is recharged and then recovered for use
• Additional treatment through the soil profile
• Direct Potable Reuse
• Advanced treated effluent for potable use
• Arizona's Reuse History
• Brief details provided
• Glendale Historic Effluent Production
• 2008-2018 Chart provided
• Glendale Effluent Use
• Recharge — 38%
• At 3 recharge facilities
• Reuse — 17%
• Mainly Arrowhead Lakes and Golf Courses
• Reuse - 91 st Ave. Waste Water Treatment Plant (WTP) — 41 %
• Cooling water at PVNGS
• Tres Rios
• Losses — 4%
• Glendale Recharge of Effluent: Glendale has stored a combined 165,000 acre-feet of
effluent underground. This is almost 4 years of supply. Effluent accounts for 110,000
acre-feet or 66% of Glendale's total storage. Effluent can be recharged at all three facilities
(aerial display and general facts provided on slides.)
• Arrowhead Recharge Facility
• West Area Recharge Facility
• SRP's New River Agua River Underground Storage Project (NAUSP)
• Glendale Reuse of Effluent
• Arrowhead Lakes Golf Courses
• Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station (PVNGS) and Tres Rios
• Conventional Versus DPR Treatment
• Glendale's two WWTP's use the following conventional treatment
• Primary Treatment
• Secondary Treatment
• Advanced Treatment
• DPR Treatment
• Public health protection from pathogens and chemicals is the paramount objective for
DPR through advanced treatment
• Types of pathogens and chemicals were provided
• Flowchart for processing of DPR was presented
• Who Will be the First to Utilize DPR in Arizona?
• Scottsdale Pilot Project: On February 7, 2019 Scottsdale Water submitted a permit
application.
• DPR in the U.S.
• EI Paso, Texas
• Big Springs, Texas
• Cloudcroft, New Mexico
• Santa Fe, New Mexico
• San Diego, CA
• Santa Clara, CA
• Daytona Beach, FL
• Altamonte Springs, FL
• Other cities in various stages of consideration/planning
• Other DPR Issues of Concern
• Operator and Training Certification
• No current training or certification for DPR operators in Arizona (California and
Nevada are in process)
• Operators of DPR should have the highest level of certifications (Grade 4) in both
WT and WWT
• Operators should also be trained in advanced treatment system operations for
potable reuse
• A separate DPR (advanced treatment) certification could be developed
• City of Flagstaff Future DPR Costs: Graph displayed
• Public Perception Questionnaires: Responses to Flagstaff questionnaire displayed
• Must gain support of the stakeholders through persistent communication
• Must highlight the overall water supply concerns and water reliability
• Must create confidence in the quality of the DPR potable water supply
• Confront conflict head-on
• Multiple channels
• Know your audience
• Brine Disposal: Process was explained.
• Possible Arizona DPR Projects
• Water providers dependent on one water source
• Drought impacts on renewable surface water supplies
• New potable supply for growth
• Which Arizona city will be the first for a full-scale project?
• Possible Glendale DPR Projects
• Currently, Glendale does not need additional DPR water
• Climate and availability of Colorado River water may change drastically
• Could utilize DPR for industry/recreation
• DPR water to fill lakes due to ADWR Lakes bill
• Create a small package plant at Glendale's West Area WWTP?
Chair Liebman inquired as to the timeframe to plan, design, build, test, and distribute DPR. Mr.
Swieczkowski replied that a pilot test would be done first, which would take one and a half to two
years. Mr. Swieczkowski relayed that San Diego and EI Paso have been working on their projects
for approximately five years so far. Chair Liebman asked about Arrowhead Amenities. Mr.
Swieczkowski replied that the City has a contract with Arrowhead Amenities. Chair Liebman
asked if any of the City's plants have capacity to add additional steps. Mr. Serio replied that
Arrowhead would be tight, however, the West plant is designed to add more treatment trains so
could be used. Chair Liebman asked if this would be economical to add, based on population
growth. Mr. Swieczkowski replied that Glendale's water portfolio is strong and at this time, DPR is
really not needed for Glendale, unless there is a particular use for which the City would like to use
it.
Chair Liebman noted that the cost of DPR is substantially higher than regular water and inquired
about operating costs. Mr. Swieczkowski responded that operating costs would also be higher
due to new technologies.
Commissioner McGrew wondered if it would make sense for Glendale to build a DPR facility and
sell DPR to other cities in the future. Mr. Swieczkowski replied that this was a great idea and
regional water collaborations are discussed at the water association meetings. Commissioner
McGrew inquired if saltwater or effluent water was easier to treat. Mr. Swieczkowski responded
that effluent water was easier.
Commissioner Ford wondered if it was beneficial to be the first city in the DPR game. Mr.
Swieczkowski commented that he did not think that Glendale would want to be the first, as there
was some value in waiting. Mr. Swieczkowski stated that if the City waited ten to twenty years, it
would be able to see lessons learned. Commissioner Ford inquired about how to handle public
outreach. Mr. Swieczkowski stated that methods such as social media, news events, face to face
meetings, tours, and education can be used. Commissioner Ford suggested having celebrities
promote DPR or invite someone from EI Paso to speak on how it is working in their city.
Commissioner Ford asked if DPR was the trend for the future. Mr. Swieczkowski stated that there
are very few choices for future water supply. Mr. Swieczkowski relayed that he has a lot of faith in
desalination, as it is unlimited and probably the best choice for the City's future next bucket of
water. Mr. Swieczkowski commented that desalination and DPR are the future in water.
Vice Chair Short announced that a contract for a seven -acre lake at Heroes Park using SRP water
is on the October 8th Council agenda. Vice Chair Short suggested utilizing effluent water for the
lake, which would be a great water conservation project for the City. Mr. Swieczkowski stated that
a lot of piping would need to be done to convey effluent water to this location. Vice Chair Short
stressed that it would be a great project for the City to be a leader in this effort.
Commissioner Flatau noticed that agriculture was not on the chart for DPR use and stated that it
could be a great water source for agriculture such as cotton. Mr. Swieczkowski agreed but noted
that a large issue is getting the pipes to the farms as that it is very expensive to retrofit purple
pipes.
Commissioner Ford asked if the City had educational materials on which products could be put
into the water system if DPR was used. Ms. Logan stated that the City does have conservation
and sustainable living education. Commissioner Ford commented that perhaps it could cost less
to treat the water if less damage was done up front.
Chair Liebman thanked Mr. Swieczkowski for the presentation.
8. CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 2020
Ms. Alberty explained the old and the new selection process for Chair and Vice Chair based on
direction from the Government Services Committee along with timeframes. Ms. Alberty
announced that the term of the Chair and Vice Chair would begin in February 2020.
Motion by Commissioner McGrew, second by Commissioner Flatau, to recommend
Commissioner Jonathan Liebman as Chair of the Citizens Utility Advisory Commission with
a term to begin in February 2020.
Chair Liebman asked if there were any other nominations. None were made.
Motion carried 5 — 0.
Motion by Commissioner Flatau, second by Commissioner McGrew, to recommend
Commissioner Ron Short as Vice Chair of the Citizens Utility Advisory Commission with a
term to begin in February 2020.
Chair Liebman asked if there were any other nominations. None were made.
Motion carried 5 — 0.
Chair Liebman wondered if the Commission needed to wait until February 2020 to work on next
year's agenda, since the Chair and Vice Chair will remain the same. Ms. Logan will ask the
Government Services Committee. Commissioner Ford commented that a tentative agenda could
possibly be drafted. Chair Liebman asked staff for a list of past agenda items for use in drafting a
2020 tentative agenda.
9. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
Commissioner Flatau commented that the presentations this evening were wonderful.
Commissioner Ford agreed that the presentations were wonderful, wished Mr. Johnson well in his
recovery, and thanked Chair Liebman and Vice Chair Short for their willingness to serve as Chair
and Vice Chair as it brings consistency to the Commission.
Commissioner McGrew complimented the presentations, looked forward to hearing more on the
balanced scorecard, and thanked Chair Liebman for his leadership.
Chair Liebman thanked staff for all of the information and for answering his and other
Commissioner's questions. Chair Liebman wondered how the balanced scorecard would be rated
or graded. Ms. Logan stated that initially, it will be rated annually, but Council may want it more
often, such as quarterly. Ms. Logan stated that there is much greater focus now on
measurements and how to know if staff is successful. Ms. Logan indicated that the balanced
scorecard is a greater, comprehensive effort coming from the top of City staff.
10. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
November 2019:
• Current Fiscal Year Financial Update
11. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Citizens Utility Advisory Commission will be held on November 6,
2019 at 6:00 p.m., at the Oasis Water Campus, 7070 W. Northern Ave., Glendale, Arizona, 85303.
12. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner McGrew, second by Commissioner Flatau, to adjourn the meeting
at 8:01 p.m. Motion carried 5 — 0.
The Citizens Utility Advisory Commission meeting minutes of October 2, 2019 were submitted and
approved this 6th day of November, 2019.
Respectfully submitted,
Denise Kazmierczak