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MINUTES
CITIZENS TRANSPORTATION OVERSIGHT COMMISSION
GLENDALE TRANSPORTATION OFFICE
6210 W. MYRTLE AVENUE — BUILDING A, SUITE 111
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 86301
AUGUST 1, 2019
6:OOP.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Geurs took roll call and noted that Commissioner Young had informed staff that she would be
absent this evening (commissioners Fundis and O'Connor had also informed staff that they may not
be able to attend the meeting).
2. ROLL CALL
Chair Geurs took roll call and noted that Commissioner Young had informed staff that she would be
absent this evening.
Present: John Geurs, Chair
John Fernandes, Vice Chair
Chris Hauser, Commissioner
Chuck Jared, Commissioner
Marie Nesfield, Commissioner
Jack Nylund, Commissioner
Barbara Rose, Commissioner
Absent: Chris Fundis, Commissioner
John O'Connor, Commissioner
Christopher Sund, Commissioner
Joan Young, Commissioner
Also Present: Purab Adabala, Transportation Planning Administrator
Patrick Sage, Transportation Planner
Javier Gurrola, Pavement Program Manager
Dan Gerhard, Engineering Project Manager
David Beard, City Engineer
Kurt Christianson, Assistant City Engineer
Attendees:
3. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA - WITHDRAWALS AND CONTINUANCES
ACTION BY CTOC: Approval of the agenda for the August 1, 2019 Citizens Transportation
Oversight Commission, as provided.
AYE: Chair John Geurs
Vice Chair John Fernandes
Commissioner Chris Hauser
Commissioner Chuck Jared
Commissioner Marie Nesfield
Commissioner Jack Nylund
Commissioner Barbara Rose
Other: Commissioner Chris Fundis (ABSENT)
Commissioner John O'Connor (ABSENT)
Commissioner Christopher Sund (ABSENT)
Commissioner Joan Young (ABSENT)
Passed
4. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
ACTION BY CTOC: Approval of the minutes from the June 6, 2019 meeting of the Citizens
Transportation Oversight Commission, as written.
AYE: Chair John Geurs
Vice Chair John Fernandes
Commissioner Chris Hauser
Commissioner Chuck Jared
Commissioner Marie Nesfield
Commissioner Jack Nylund
Commissioner Barbara Rose
Other: Commissioner Chris Fundis (ABSENT)
Commissioner John O'Connor (ABSENT)
Commissioner Christopher Sund (ABSENT)
Commissioner Joan Young (ABSENT)
Passed
6. CITIZEN COMMENTS
No comments were made.
6. PROJECT UPDATE: GLENDALE AVENUE RECONSTRUCTION
Mr. Gerhard, Project Manager, gave an update on the Glendale Avenue Reconstruction project,
which included the following information:
• Project Elements
• Project Stakeholders
• Scheduling Conflicts
An inquiry was made regarding the life span of concrete and Mr. Beard estimated 50 years.
Commissioner Nesfield wondered why some sections of the roadway would be asphalt and
some concrete. Mr. Beard explained that pavement types are determined in part by the adjacent
land uses and related traffic wear and tear, among other technical reasons.
Commissioner Jared noted potential issues with the Coyotes traffic on Glendale Avenue. Mr.
Gerhard agreed that Coyotes traffic will have to be worked around.
Vice Chair Fernandes commented on additional traffic due to the new arena team, the Rattlers.
Chair Geurs stated that street lights were not specifically identified on the plan diagram. Mr.
Gerhard explained that the plan includes utilities such as water and sewer at this time. Mr.
Beard stated that the bond funding is for replacing the street pavement. Chair Geurs asked if
the project would be completed in phases. Mr. Beard stated that the asphalt and concrete would
most likely be done in three phases: two asphalt and one concrete. Chair Geurs inquired about
the project timeline. Mr. Beard estimated that the project would be completed before the
beginning of 2022.
Commissioner Rose asked about the difference between asphalt and concrete. Mr. Gerhard
noted that initially asphalt is less expensive compared to concrete. Mr. Beard added that
concrete and asphalt basically have the same life cycle cost, because concrete lasts longer.
Commissioner Nylund inquired if the project has been funded. Mr. Adabala replied in the
positive, noting that it has been funding with the sales tax cash and the general obligation bond.
Commissioner Hauser asked if improvements would be made on Glendale Avenue from EI
Mirage to Litchfield Road after this project has been completed. Mr. Gurrola replied in the
positive. Commissioner Hauser inquired if the concrete used will be traditional,
roller -compacted, or Cemex. Mr. Gerhard relayed that Cemex was considered; however, the
fiber -reinforced, 7.5" thick, section concrete will be utilized. Mr. Beard added that staff looked at
the roller -compacted cement, which worked well in his previous state of Texas, but does not
work as well in this region. Commissioner Hauser inquired about the designer for the project
and Mr. Beard relayed that it was Kimley-Horn.
7. PROJECT UPDATE - PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
Commissioner Nesfield inquired about the lower cost for pavement for FY2019-20. Mr. Gurrola
explained that the first phase included a lot of mill and overlays, while this next phase involves
less intense treatments. Commissioner Nesfield asked if the next phase would achieve the PCI
goal. Mr. Gurrola stated that it will be difficult to achieve the PCI goal in this next phase
considering the reconstruction work remains. Vice Chair Fernandes wondered when the
additional 350 miles for the entire program would be completed. Mr. Gurrola stated that if the
department receives $5.2 million annually for the budget, it would take until 2027 or 2028 to
finish the rest of the miles. Mr. Gurrola noted that if more funding is received, the timeframe
would be shortened.
Commissioner Nylund asked if a bond could be used for the project. Mr. Gurrola relayed that the
City cannot bond for pavement management. Mr. Adabala added that the life cycle of a
pavement treatment is five to seven years and a bond spans twenty-five years. Commissioner
Nylund stated that it did not sound as if Council was funding pavement management at the level
needed in order to complete the project before they would leave office, as it might take eight
years for completion. Commissioner Nylund asked if staff has compared roadway expenditures
versus other cities and wondered how Glendale ranked. Mr. Gurrola replied in the positive,
stated that Glendale is on average with other cities in the valley, and shared examples.
Commissioner Nylund asked if the funding came from the General Fund. Mr. Gurrola explained
that the project is funded by HURF and the Y2 cent transportation sales tax. Commissioner
Nylund stated that during the economic turndown, the City of Mesa continued its level of street
maintenance despite the downturn. Commissioner Nylund suggested that instead of growing
the City surplus to $50 million, the road conditions s should be addressed and recommended
that this be relayed to Council. Mr. Gurrola noted that this evening's presentation is a draft of
what will be shared with Council in an upcoming workshop, and a multi -media presentation will
also be included.
Commissioner Nylund asked if there was a role for CTOC to support the program. Mr. Beard
announced that the presentation for this Program will be made on August 13th at which staff will
present a compelling argument for more funding, and a CTOC recommendation in support of
more funding would not hurt. Mr. Adabala clarified that the August 13th Council meeting is a
workshop and a direction or action item may result from the workshop, and will come back to
CTOC for recommendation (after this CTOC meeting, the Pavement Management workshop
was deferred to September 10). Mr. Adabala stated that there will be an opportunity for CTOC to
make a recommendation on the Transportation Plan and the Pavement Management
Program. Chair Geurs asked if the recommendation could be placed as an action item on the
September CTOC agenda. Mr. Sage replied in the positive, if the September meeting would be
the appropriate timing.
Mr. Sage stated that Mr. Gurrola will also address the specific roadway location questions that
the Commissioners submitted prior to the meeting.
Mr. Gurrola addressed a previously submitted question from Chair Geurs asking for an
explanation for the selection of pavement treatments. Mr. Gurrola relayed that there are many
types of treatment and the method is to choose the right treatment, for the right road, at the right
time. Chair Geurs noted that some roads have more road noise than others even though they
are adjacent and look the same. Mr. Gurrola provided an explanation, which included impacts
from traffic count and neighborhood streets versus arterial. Mr. Gurrola added that arterial roads
are rougher initially after treatment, but smooth out over time.
Mr. Gurrola addressed a previously submitted question from Vice Chair Fernandes regarding
79th Avenue between Camelback and Missouri Avenue. Mr. Gurrola explained that last year,
his crew filled 200 potholes in a few hours on this stretch of road. Mr. Gurrola noted that
this street section has been identified for mill and overlay, but this will not be done until
completion of the construction of the adjacent new development. Vice Chair Fernandes asked if
more filling could be done in the meantime. Mr. Gurrola will have his crew take a closer look at
this area.
Mr. Gurrola addressed another previously submitted question from Chair Geurs regarding
Thunderbird Road between 43rd Avenue and 67th Avenue, which is bumpy after the
crack -filling. Mr. Gurrola stated that a cape seal was done along this stretch of road and the
bumps will smooth out from the traffic over time.
Commissioner Nylund wondered where the City obtained the asphalt for filling potholes. Mr.
Gurrola stated that the asphalt is obtained from Vulcan, and explained the pothole filling
process in general.
Commissioner Nylund asked if the City requires HOAs to be responsible for damage from
malfunctioning irrigation lines going under the public streets to water the HOA's medians. Mr.
Gurrola stated that when an issue is identified, the HOAs are made aware of the property code
violation.
8. ZONING CODE UPDATE AND BICYCLE PARKING
Mr. Sage gave provided information regarding the potential inclusion of a bicycle
parking component in the upcoming Glendale zoning code update. The presentation included:
Bike Parking Opportunity
• Glendale's Active Transportation Plan recommends that bike parking be installed with new
development projects.
• Transportation staff will participate on the advisory committee.
• This will address new development project, not retroactive to existing facilities.
• Bike Parking Ordinance Examples
• Mesa Bike
• Scottsdale
Commissioner Rose asked if this proposal would address where the City should install bike
racks or if this was only for private developments. Mr. Sage replied that the code would only
apply to new developments. This is not a proposal for City funds to install bike facilities at
existing City properties. Mr. Adabala noted that City Hall, the libraries, and other City facilities
have some bike parking. Mr. Adabala stated that additional installations on City properties can
be addressed at any time, but a requirement for new developments should be in the City code
for uniform application.
Commissioner Nesfield commented that the code would only cover new developments and not
existing developments. Mr. Adabala replied in the positive and noted that it would cover old
developments if they undergo substantial redevelopment.
Commissioner Jared announced that people ride bikes to the arena and then lock them up to
trees. Commissioner Jared recommended bike parking at the arena. Mr. Sage agreed and
encouraged Commissioner Jared to express this suggestion to the arena management.
Commissioner Nylund suggested a requirement for bike parking if the use of a location has
changed, which results in increased traffic. Commissioner Nylund also suggested procuring
sponsorships for advertisements on bike racks at City facilities.
Chair Geurs expressed the desire to forward a statement to Council that the CTOC is in favor of
including bike parking requirements for new developments in the zoning code update.
ACTION BY CTOC: Recommendation to City Council that the City includes a bicycle parking
component in the City Code at some time, and to explore all opportunities to apply the code to
both new developments and existing properties in redevelopment.
Motioned by Commissioner Chuck Jared, seconded by Commissioner Barbara Rose
AYE: Chair John Geurs
Vice Chair John Fernandes
Commissioner Chris Hauser
Commissioner Chuck Jared
Commissioner Marie Nesfield
Commissioner Jack Nylund
Commissioner Barbara Rose
Other: Commissioner Chris Fundis (ABSENT)
Commissioner John O'Connor (ABSENT)
Commissioner Christopher Sund (ABSENT)
Commissioner Joan Young (ABSENT)
Passed
9. MANAGER'S REPORT
Mr. Adabala reported the following:
• Northern Parkway
• Dysart Road - 111th Avenue:Construction
• Dysart Road & EI Mirage Road: Design
• EI Mirage Alternate Access: Design
• 99th Avenue — Agua Fria River Bridge:Study
• Grand Avenue — 99th Avenue:Study
• Ongoing Projects
• Transportation Plan
• Pavement Reconstruction
• Ball Park Boulevard
• Cardinals Way/Bethany Home Road
• 91 st Avenue Turn Lane
• Gus Bus Tracker
• Glendale Transportation Social Media
10. COMMISSIONER UPDATES
Commissioner Jared commented on a need for Dial -a -Ride to pick up passengers from the
northwest corner of the arena as they are leaving the arena. Commissioner Jared will send Mr.
Sage a contact name for the arena for staff follow up.
Chair Geurs reminded the Commissioners to not hit "reply all" when responding to staff emails.
11. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Vice Chair Fernandes stated that Mayor Weiers is now the chair of the MAG Transportation
Policy Committee, and suggested a future agenda item where the Mayor addresses the CTOC
about the MAG process and its relation to the City.
Chair Geurs announced that he and Vice Chair Fernandes will not be at the October meeting
and stated the need to identify an acting chair for October, as part of the next CTOC meeting.
12. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Citizens Transportation Oversight Commission is scheduled
for September 5, 2019 at 6:00 p.m., at 6210 W. Myrtle Road - Building A, Suite 111, Glendale,
Arizona, 85301.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Geurs adjourned the meeting at 7:47 p.m.
ns Transportation Oversight Commission meeting minutes of August 1st, 2019 were submitted
ved this 5th day of September, 2019.
Patrick Rage
Recording Secretary