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AVIATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
GLENDALE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT
6801 N. GLEN HARBOR BLVD.
GLENDALE, ARIZONA 85307
AIRPORT CONFERENCE ROOM
MARCH 20, 2019
6:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioner Terry Aramian
Commissioner Edward McCall
Commissioner Randal Kruger
Commissioner Quentin Tolby
Commissioner Tim Topliff
Absent: Chair Larry Rovey
Also Present: Joe Husband, Airport Administrator
Attendees: Basil 'Mike' Alien, Airport Tower Manager
John Padilla, Luke Air Force Base
Dave Lanman, CEO, AirGo Phoenix, Inc.
James Modeste, CTO, AirGo Phoenix, Inc.
3. CITIZEN COMIVIENTS
Ifdtizens wish to speak on a matter concerning the Glendale Aviation Advisory Commission that is not on the
printed agenda, please complete a Citizen Comments Card and provide it to the designated staff person prior to the
beginning of the meeting. Once your name is called by the Chairperson, please proceed to the podium and state
your name and address for the record. Please limit your comments to a period of three minutes or less.
4. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
a. Aviation Advisory Commission Minutes of February 13,2019
Motioned by Commissioner Terry Aramian, seconded by Commissioner Tim Topliff
AYE: Commissioner Terry Aramian
Commissioner Edward McCall
Commissioner Randal Kruger
Commissioner Quentin Tolby
Commissioner Tim Topliff
Other: Chair Larry Rovey (ABSENT)
Passed
5.Airport Business
a. Mr. Husband introduced Mr. Dave Lanman and Mr. Jim ModesteofAirGo Phoenix, Inc. Mr.
Lanman gave an update on plans forAirGo Phoenix at the Airport, which included the following
details:
.AirGo Phoenix began flying at the Airport in December 2017.After six months, operations
were suspended due to pending certifications and re-grouped at the company's other
location in Illinois.
. The goal is to develop the AirGo Phoenix flight academy as one that is the best in the
world.
. China Southern Airlines is currently their primary customer and Airgo is planning to
increase from 30 students currently to over 125 by the end of this year.
. Within the next few weeks, the certification process will be finalized.
. By May 1st, the following aircraft will be on site:three Seminoles and five Cessna 172s.
. Classes will begin with approximately 60 students:30 transferred from Illinois and 30 from
China within a few weeks of starting operations.It is possible that there will be 150
students enrolled at the Airport by the end of 2019.
.AirGo will need its own maintenance facilities on site.AirGo has currently reserved two
hangars in the South Box Hangar area.
. AirGo may look into purchasing a new fleet of up to thirty Tecnam P2010s by the end of
this calendar year and will eventually want to replace the Seminoles with P2006Ts.
.All aircraft will be color-schemed.
. Operations will be conducted Monday through Friday, 16 hours over two shifts.Saturdays
may be a possibility, however, there will be no operations on Sunday.
. Eventually, as the number of students increase, operating hours may go to 24/5or6
during the weekdays.
. To accommodate the number of students anticipated, Airgo may have to expand in 2021
. AirGo cannot afford to pay the retail cost for fuel at the FBO and will need to pump its own
fuel in order to be profitable.AirGo will be seeking a self-fueling permit and investigating
the construction of a fuel storage facility.
.As opportunities arise, AirGo will take advantage of the available space atAirwest.
. Starting May 1st, AirGo will use the classroom space atAirwest, Building 3.
. AirGo wants to lease and possibly purchase one row of covered aircraft tiedowns.
.AirGo is interested in talking with the City regarding the re-zoning of the property across
Glen Harbor Blvd, and the potential for the lease of the property to build student housing
facilities.AirGo would like dormitories near the academy.
. If there are not enough opportunities for existing space, AirGo will have to build hangars
and office space.
. It will take approximately 6 months to permit, develop, and design AirGo's own fuel
facilities.Until then, AirGo is researching tapping into wholesale fuel.
. At the Commission's next meeting, the AirGo representatives will bring a proposal with
specifics for the fuel facilities, such as design, location, specs, and fuel supplier.
. China Southern can send up to 600 students annually once AirGo has capacity.China
Southern would send more, however, AirGo does not want to depend on one airline and
is also in talks with ten other airlines in Europe and Asia.There is one U.S. airline
interested as well.
. AirGo has researched other airports and likes what Glendale has to offer.
. Flights will be spread throughout the day.There will also be 3:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m.
flights.
. AirGo will be conscious of departure and arrival procedures and noise abatement
procedures.
. AirGo will talk with Lufthansa regarding instrument training in Rainbow Valley.
> The business plan has been in the making for nine months.
b.
Mr. Padilla inquired as to how many aircraft AirGo would need for 600 students. Mr. Lanman
estimated 50 to 60 aircraft would be needed and at that capacity, the school would be run 24/7,
probably six days a week. Mr. Padilla asked where the training area would be. Mr. Modeste
replied that the training area would most likely be in the northwest areas and Rainbow Valley.
Mr. Padilla asked if Mr. Lanman and Mr. Modeste have been instructor pilots in the valley
before and both replied in the positive. Mr. Padilla noted how saturated the airspace can be.
Mr. Lanman agreed and reported that all of the flight schools are working together toward the
development of training areas and designating certain areas for certain aircraft. Mr. Lanman
noted that the training held down at the Lufthansa facility will help tremendously and there are
areas in the north and northwest of the state that can be used for practice. Mr. Lanman added
that satellite areas in Gila Bend and Buckeye could be utilized as well.
Mr. Padilla expressed concern that the academy will expand to 600 students while LAFB is
building its F35 fleet to 144 aircraft. Mr. Lanman stated that AirGo will develop routes where
the pilots will stay below class Bravo and then fly to their practice areas. Mr. Lanman added
that the pilots will be under astrict departure regimen and AirGo will have its own dedicated
dispatch frequency. Mr. Lanman noted that AirGo is open for any suggestions or ideas.
Mr. Lanman stressed that the immediate issue for AirGo is the fuel facility.
Mr. Alien cautioned that the Airport is not private and operates on a first come first served
basis. Mr. Alien relayed that there will be delays and did not know how the school would
handle these delays. Mr. Alien did not think that the school would have as many operations as
anticipated unless there was a lot of overnight operations. Mr. Alien stated that the pattern is
very restrictive.
Mr. Alien noted that the Airport has only one runway and inquired about AirGo's expectations.
Mr. Husband noted that the Commission is an advisory group and some of these detailed
issues can be handled directly with the Tower and Luke Air Force Base. Mr. Modeste stated
that most of the initial students will be in the instrument training program and much of this
program will be done overnight. Mr. Lanman noted that once the school is operating, there will
only be eight aircraft. Mr. Lanman added that as the school grows, AirGo will work with the
Airport regarding any scheduling issues. Mr. Modeste stressed thatAirGo does not want to
compete with any of the current services offered by the Airport, but rather would like to enhance
the Airport.
Vice Chair Tolby commented that there will be some challenges, but overall, this will be a great
asset and magnet for jobs and opportunities. Mr. Lanman stated that he sees that the Airport is
on the verge of some very good times ahead.
The agenda item was concluded.
Mr. Husband reported that he has found previous notes on the Rules and Regulations Revision
but does not have the list of all of the participants on the Working Group. Mr. Husband will
continue his research. Commissioner Aramian wondered if the identities of all on the original
Working Group is necessary. Mr. Husband replied that this might not be particularly important in
moving forward, however, the Commission's suggestion was to get the Working Group back
together. Commissioner Kruger commented that the original Working Group was too large to
make headway and he expressed that concern previously. Commissioner Kruger suggested
forming a new group of eight to ten people.
Mr. Husband announced that the following RFP's are the process of development for issuance:
an RFP for the Airport restaurant, and one for Pad 11, and one for Pad 13.
Mr. Modeste inquired if the RFP for the restaurant will address any issues which blocked the
success of the previous restaurant. Mr. Husband replied that the Commissioners have
provided suggestions which are being considered for incorporation into the RFP.
6. STAFF REPORTS
a. Mr. Husband provided the staff report for March 201 9 Highlights included the following:
AIRPORT FINANCIAL UPDATE:
. Airport Financial Update - 67% of Fiscal Year through February 2019
. Projected Annual Revenue - $775,378.00
. Revenue YTD - $604,097.09 or 77.90% of budget
.Annual Operating Budget - $775,378.00
. Expenses YTD - $545,535.75 or 70.35% of budget
AIRPORT OPERATIONS UPDATE
. Aircraft Operations - February 2019: 8,853 (approximately 8% increase over February
2018, which was 8,206)
.2018 Calendar Year:91,305- 16% increase over 2017 (78,824)
. It is probable that the Airport will go over 100,000 operations this year
GENERAL AIRPORT UPDATES
. Airport Projects and Outreach
. Staff has not heard back yet from the FAA on the Airport supplemental AIP for the
Mill and Overlay project on Taxiway A.lt is anticipated that a response will be
received by the end of March.
. The end-of-the-year projects are in process.
. South Apron maintenance is scheduled for April 22nd.
. Terminal Building lock upgrade is scheduled for next week.
. The Peoria community meeting that was scheduled for January 29th, but canceled
due to the government shut down, will be rescheduled and the FAA representative
will be re-invited to attend the meeting.
FAA and ADOT GRANTS AND ACTIONS
. The City has received an ADOT matching Grant of approximately $76,000 for the
reimbursement of the Conair property.
AIRPORT NOISE COMPLAINTS
. One noise complaint was received from a neighborhood in Scottsdale.Mr. Husband
provided information to the complainant regarding flight paths.
Mr. Husband reported that all repairs have been made due to the vandalism at the Airport. The
police detective emailed Mr. Husband indicating that the police have filed additional charges
against the perpetrator. Commissioner McCall announced that the news media was re-running
the story.
Mr. Husband announced that SkyQuest Aviation has requested additional office space on the
second floor and the terminal building continues to be full. The SkyQuest request can be
accommodated by moving the pilot lounge / flight planning room to the first-floor lobby area.
Mr. Husband reported that the Boards and Commissions Appreciation Dinner will be held
tomorrow evening at Sahuaro Ranch Park at 5:30 p.m. and all are invited to attend.
LUKE AIR FORCE BASE OPERATIONS
Commissioner Kruger noted that there has been an F35 doing quite a bit of unique flying and
wondered if it was a student. Mr. Padilla relayed that this is a pilot who is part of the F35 flying
team out of LAFB, he is now fully certified, and will go on the airshow circuit. Mr. Alien asked if
these types of flights will continue. Mr. Padilla stated that the pilot will have to maintain his
proficiency and the airshows will keep him proficient during the summer, however, there may
be some flights during the winter.
COMMISSION COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
Commissioner Aramian inquired about the status of the aircraft request for the memorial. Vice
Chair Tolby replied that none of the aircraft requested have been offered yet. Vice Chair Tolby
stated that there is a Huey helicopter on display at the Peoria park on Thunderbird Road. Vice
Chair Tolby commented that it would be less expensive and easier to transport and display a
Huey helicopter. Vice Chair Tolby will contact the City of Peoria to find out who spearheaded
the project and invite the lead person to the next Commission meeting.
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
No new proposed items.
10. NEXT MEETING
The next meeting of the Aviation Advisory Commission is scheduled to be held on April 17,
2019 at 6:00 p.m. in the Conference Room on the second floor of the Airport terminal building,
6801 N. Glen Harbor Blvd., Glendale, Arizona 85307
1. ADJOURNMENT
The Aviation Advisory Commission Meeting minutes of March 20, 2019 were submitted and approved this
^th day of April, 2019.
Jbfeeph hlusband, Airport Administrator