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Thursday – March 30, 2017 Regular Meeting Minutes
Council Conference Room
5850 West Glendale Avenue
Glendale, AZ
Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. Present were
Councilmember Jamie Aldama (Arrived late), Councilmember Lauren Tolmachoff, and
Councilmember Ray Malnar. Also in attendance were Van Ornelas; Charyn Eirich-Palmisano,
Community Revitalization; Elaine Adamczyk, Community Services; Jenna Goad, Government
Relations; Julie K. Bower, City Clerk; and City Attorney Michael Bailey.
#1 – Approval of Minutes from GSC Meeting of February 2, 2017 Councilmember Malnar
made a motion to approve the minutes from the February 2, 2017 GSC meeting. Councilmember
Tolmachoff seconded the motion. Minutes approved by Councilmember Tolmachoff and
Councilmember Malnar.
#2 – Resignations
Discussed Mr. Manuel Padia’s resignation (Barrel) from Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
due to change in meeting schedule.
#3 – Community Development Advisory Committee (CDAC) Committee Update – Charyn
Eirich-Palmisano, Community Revitalization and Elaine Adamczyk, Community Services
Ms. Elaine Adamczyk presented on the following:
CDAC structure, committee resolution and responsibilities -
o CDAC is responsible for $2.5 million in Federal funding.
13-member board committee size and make-up.
Federal policy and regulations of CDAC.
Difficulty of membership and quorum issues.
Solicited GSC for assistance with required vacancies and recruitment ideas-
o HUD requirements for membership must be met.
o Would like to have a public housing family participate.
o Used a flyer/brochure to help recruit members.
Councilmember Malnar inquired as to the reasons why so certain members are close to dropping
out of the committee. Ms. Adamczyk replied that members have a variety of issues that prevent
them from attending committee meetings. Councilmember Malnar also asked what are the low-
income qualifications for participating as a member. Ms. Charyn Eirich-Palmisano responded that
the committee must have five members that are from an area that is designated as low-income and
one member from the Glendale Elementary School District.
Councilmember Aldama asked if this was the committee that oversees the CBDG grants and
what the major issue is regarding the CDAC committee. Ms. Adamczyk and Ms. Charyn Eirich-
Palmisano replied that the major issue is lack of quorum. Councilmember Aldama further stated
that he did not know that this was an issue. Ms. Adamczyk added that membership has fallen to
nine, and March 2017 meeting only had seven, which is exactly the quorum that is needed. With
the January 4th and 5th meetings, quorum was not met and meetings had to be canceled.
Councilmember Tolmachoff inquired if CDAC was seeking a proposal regarding changing the
number of people needed for the committee. Ms. Adamczyk answered that CDAC has to have
13, federal guidelines say five from low income representation, seven members to represent one
of each of the city’s districts, and one member from the Glendale Elementary School District
(GESD). Councilmember Tolmachoff also asked what can GSC do to fix the problem. Ms.
Adamczyk suggested that lowering the committee membership would help with the quorum
issue, however, the federal requirement is five from low income areas and one from GESD.
Councilmember Malnar suggested adding two members at-large and if there is an advantage to
adding a youth to the committee. Jenna Goad replied that her understanding of the seven
appointments represent council districts, which have an easier time recruiting and filling those
vacancies. Councilmember Malnar thought by adding members to the committee would make it
easier. Councilmember Tolmachoff suggested making the committee smaller rather than larger to
help with quorum.
Ms. Charyn Eirich Palmisano announced that by making the committee smaller it would put a
greater emphasis on the set five low-income membership, which would make recruitment much
more difficult. Councilmember Malnar asked to look at a Census district map and wondered why
his district didn’t show any low-income neighborhoods. Ms. Charyn Eirich Palmisano indicated
that the Census tracts take all information based on the 2010 Census. She also mentioned that they
could go down further to Census blocks and use those numbers. Councilmember Malnar suggested
Census blocks be used in his district because he knows that there are tracts/blocks below poverty.
Ms. Adamczyk asked Charyn if the low-income residents also have to be from a low-income
census tract or district, so it can't be someone who lives up north but still be low-income. Ms.
Charyn Eirich Palmisano responded that they have to represent the neighborhood in which they
reside. She also indicated that CDAC could use Census blocks and the micro-data to help qualify
members. Councilmember Malnar mentioned that he would like to see that used because portions
of his district have needs and are often overlooked. Ms. Adamczyk replied that if someone
participates in some sort of way and therefore represents their position on this for the responsibility
of this board, it would not necessarily be to advocate for themselves or their neighborhood, it
would be for the allocation of $3 million of federal funds to qualified applicants/nonprofits.
Councilmember Aldama clarified Councilmember Malnar’s point by stating that the criteria used
to qualify commission members comes from HUD’s Federal Low-income Standards requirement
that uses Census data. Councilmember Malnar asked for an explanation between census tracts
versus blocks. Ms. Eirich Palmisano explained the difference between census tracts and blocks.
She further mentioned that she would have to reference the CAP guidelines to see how far they
could go down in a census tract or block to qualify an individual commissioner.
Councilmember Aldama asked if CDAC would like to comeback with a proposal and see how the
GSC can help with the quorum issues. Ms. Adamczyk announced that they would like to come
back with a proposal and understands that there may be prospective applicants for the CDAC
commission. Councilmember Aldama asked that CDAC clarify with the City Attorney about the
possible changes to the committee and bring forth a proposal at the next GSC meeting.
Councilmember Tolmachoff inquired about the committee’s make up and if the group was
proposing to change the number of commissioners on this committee and if they were wanting to
add at large members.
Councilmember Malnar asked if there were any absentee issues and if they are monitored, and if
members are needing to be replaced. Van Ornelas commented that attendance is monitored and
that GSC would be discussing in executive session. Ms. Adamczyk mentioned that there are
several attendance issues as well that are affecting CDAC’s ability to meet quorum.
Councilmember Aldama announced that GSC will discuss this matter in executive session and will
try to resolve it if possible. He also asked Ms. Adamczyk and Ms. Eirich Palmisano to please verify
with the City Attorney if those changes can be made and to research HUD on the federal guidelines.
Ms. Adamczyk agreed to have the City Attorney look at lowering the number of commissioners,
and if they can go from Census tracts to blocks. She further mentioned that they would advertise
with HUD housing families and would look at HUD regulations to see if changes can occur. Both
Ms. Adamczyk and Ms. Eirich Palmisano agreed to come back and update the committee.
#4 - Julie K. Bower, City Clerk – Update on Standardization of Boards & Commissions
Agendas; and Michael Bailey, City Attorney - Agenda Review Committee
Ms. Julie Bower presented the following:
Updated the committee on the implementation process for standardizing the
agendas/minutes for the Boards & Commissions.
Provided a background and need for standardizing agendas and minutes.
Mentioned new system would allow for quicker postings from boards and commissions.
Public can view posted items of agendas and supportive packets/documents.
Discussed and provided samples of the new format that will follow council agendas.
Currently in the process of meeting with liaisons from the various boards and commissions.
Training will be provided to staff liaisons who put agendas/minutes together.
Councilmember Malnar inquired about whose responsible for creating the agendas and the reason
for needing to standardize them. Van Ornelas explained that staff liaisons from each board and
commission is responsible for creating their own agenda and minutes. Ms. Bower stated that every
board and commission uses a different format. She handed out a sample agenda to the committee.
Councilmember Tolmachoff inquired about past agendas and information. Ms. Bowers replied that
the new system would allow for data retrieval of archival items.
Councilmember Aldama inquired about possible staffing issues with minutes taking, particularly
with Parks and Recreation. Ms. Bowers noted that the new system would have a minutes module,
and that minutes are required by law and that all boards and commissions should taking minutes.
She indicated that her meetings with people has been a good exercise and has created some
concerns for the need of proper training and records keeping. Ms. Bower plans to follow up with
these committees.
Councilmember Aldama asked why this standardize process was necessary. Ms. Bower replied
that every board and commission uses a different format. She handed out samples of the different
types of agendas being used. Councilmember Aldama inquired about the agendas being posted on
the City’s kiosk. Ms. Bower said all agendas are posted to the public as well as the kiosk.
Councilmember Tolmachoff announced the minutes taking issue regarding Parks and Recreation.
She and Councilmember Aldama inquired whether that issue was resolved or not? Councilmember
Aldama asked Van to look into the matter with Erik Strunk and report back.
Councilmember Malnar inquired whether the standardizing would make it easier and faster create
agendas. Ms. Bower replied that yes it would make it easier and format more uniform. Van Ornelas
inquired about the roll out and timeline of the new standardized process. Ms. Bower mentioned
that the process would begin with training in April and completed by the first part of May.
Mr. Michael Bailey presented the following:
Need/background for an Agenda Review Committee-
o Council Standpoint
Meetings canceled due to other scheduled events
The number of council agenda items
Lengthy meetings
o Staff Standpoint
Agenda authority and structure
Time allotment, management, and scheduling
Elements of the Agenda Review Committee-
o Proposed members of the committee-
City Attorney
City Clerk
City Manager Representative
Mayor
One Councilmember
Process for implementing the Agenda Review Committee.
Councilmember Tolmachoff inquired as to who has authority to add items to the council agenda.
Mr. Bailey indicated that part of the issue for this is that there is no real structure. He gave an
example that when he sees only one item on the agenda, he feels that he can add important legal
items to discuss and have the appropriate time allotted for that discussion. Mr. Bailey further
mentions that often times what happens is that others add to the agenda and meetings and executive
sessions then go for long periods of time. He explained the need for Agenda Review Committee
and how it would elevate this issue.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked about the structure of the committee as it pertains to council
members. She indicated that she would like to see two councilmembers on the committee, not just
one, and the mayor be considered part of the council. Mr. Bailey outlined the reason for the
structure since the Mayor is the chair of the council meeting.
Councilmember Aldama stated that the Mayor’s role is ceremonial and is more like a
councilmember.
Councilmember Tolmachoff voiced her concern that this committee could become too political
and felt that if councilmembers and the mayor were to rotate, it would minimize this from
happening. Mr. Bailey suggested since there are five members represented on the committee it
would be balanced.
Councilmember Aldama mentioned that since the mayor had no role in creating or setting the
agenda, he should not have to be on the committee at all times while councilmembers have to
rotate. He further stated that its inappropriate to have this structure in place and that the mayor
should have to alternate just like councilmembers. Mr. Bailey responded that he would go back
and work on the structure so that the importance of the agenda committee is on the merits and
substance of the agenda items.
Councilmember Malnar inquired as to who sets the agenda for the council. Mr. Bailey replied that
there is no real structure/authority and there lies the problem. Councilmember Aldama asked what
is the current practice for setting the agenda. Ms. Bower mentioned that there is no real practice
and that staff just puts items on agenda. Mr. Bailey explained the process on how items get on the
agenda through the online system. Julie Bower and Jenna Goad added that a spreadsheet is used
to determine generally what’s on the agenda. Ms. Bower further mentioned that she notifies city
departments if there is room on the agenda but doesn’t have the authority to make departments add
or delete items from the agenda.
Councilmember Tolmachoff inquired as to why doesn’t the City Clerk have the authority to make
those decisions regarding the agenda. Mr. Bailey indicated that the purpose of the Agenda Review
Committee was designed for that purpose.
Councilmember Aldama asked Jenna Goad to comment on the current agenda process. Ms. Goad
mentioned that Glendale uses a software that allows departments to upload their items/attachments
into the system, and is then approved by a department head or city attorney depending on the item,
but ultimately ends up in the city manager’s office. Ms. Goad further states that there is a
mechanism and sequencing for approval through the software system. Mr. Bailey added that this
only illustrates how an idea/item gets on a paper agenda and not substance of the item that will be
discussed.
Councilmember Malnar inquired about the administrative role of the city manager as it relates to
formulating/creating the agenda. He believes that the city manager should be the most involved in
the process on how things get on the agenda.
Councilmember Tolmachoff asked Ms. Bower how it’s done in other places she has been. Ms.
Bower responded that typically the city manager is very involved with what’s on the agenda and
the control of the process, and always the city clerk produces the agenda. She also indicated that
this was the first time she has seen where the city manager is not as involved.
Councilmember Tolmachoff suggested that the council should communicate their concerns to the
city manager about the agenda-making process and to empower the city clerk to have more
authority over the agenda.
Councilmember Aldama stated that he would like to know from the city manager to what extent
is he involved with the agenda-making process and would like to know why it’s done the way it is
currently.
Councilmember Tolmachoff indicated that she would like to see the city manager or a designated
staff member oversee this process.
Councilmember Malnar expressed concern over the agenda process, lack of coordination, and the
lack of progress with the Items of Special Interest. He stated that he feels that staff is letting the
items go too long and they don’t ever get around to the them after so much time has passed.
Councilmember Aldama posed a question that he wants to know if Kevin has a role in the process
or if he even wants a role in the agenda-making process.
Councilmember Malnar announced that he agrees with the process of an Agenda Review
Committee and thinks it will expedite and reduce problems.
Councilmember Aldama agreed with councilmember Malnar and inquired about the committee’s
purpose. Mr. Bailey explained that the main purpose of the committee is to work with council to
help balance and manage the amount of time needed for agenda items.
Councilmember Tolmachoff agreed with Mr. Bailey that the purpose of the committee is to help
manage the work load.
Councilmember Aldama inquired about the purpose of the mayor and the overall structure of the
review committee. He feels that he has not seen where there are standing members in other city
committees. Ms. Bower mentioned that she was familiar with this structure from previous places
she worked. Mr. Bailey also responded that there are standing members in the public safety
committees that are outlined by statue.
GSC members agreed that they were being asked to approve the Agenda Review Committee or
some set of guidelines to help improve the agenda process.
Councilmember Aldama suggested that maybe they create an Agenda Review Committee without
councilmembers since the process is more administrative than policy. All three committee
members agreed with that suggestion and would like to see the city clerk empowered with more
authority, along with the city manager or designee to oversee this review committee. All three also
felt that this function is an administrative task and not a council function.
Councilmember Tolmachoff indicated that she would like to see criteria for what goes on and off
the agenda, as well as, deadlines for posting. Councilmember Aldama agreed that the city attorney
and city clerk should have more authority and empowerment over the process. Mr. Bailey clarified
with GSC that he and the city clerk to would work together on this review process. Ms. Bower
stated that she would include hard deadlines regarding the agenda process unless it’s an
emergency.
Councilmember Tolmachoff suggested that the clerk have authority on the scheduling of council
meetings and workshops.
Councilmember Aldama inquired about the next steps of this proposal. Mr. Bailey felt that he and
the city clerk have adequate direction and will begin the agenda review process.
Councilmember Malnar mentioned that he would like to see the big picture as well. He would like
to know who or what’s driving the agenda. He further mentioned that he feels no one is leading
the agenda process and maybe the Council should address with city manager.
Ms. Goad responded that the majority of the agenda items come from one of the various
department heads and directors and ultimately the city manager. She indicated that since the city
manager’s office was not present and not part of the discussion, she suggested they get feedback
from the city manager’s office.
Councilmember Tolmachoff posed a question as to whether the council needs to set expectations
with the city manager or designee that they need to be working with the city clerk and city attorney.
She further explained that this would help with the work flow and management of the agenda
process.
Councilmember Malnar felt that the city attorney and city clerk were looking for greater guidance
and authority.
Councilmember Aldama inquired on how GSC or the council should communicate this
information to the city manager. Mr. Bailey stated that GSC could invite him to a GSC committee
meeting.
Councilmember Aldama suggested to Mr. Bailey that he inform the city manager that GSC wold
like for him or designee involved with the agenda process.
#6 – Next GSC Meeting: Tuesday, April 18, 2017
Committee discussed the next meeting date and time, and all agreed with the scheduled date/time
for Tuesday, April 18, 2017. Committee also mentioned that they would hold the next GSC
meeting on May, 16, 2017.
Request for Motion to Adjourn
At 11:10 a.m., Councilmember Aldama made a motion to adjourn. Councilmember Tolmachoff
seconded the motion. Motion approved unanimously.