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CITIZENS TRANSPORTATION OVERSIGHT COMMISSION
5850 West Glendale Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85301
City Hall, Room B-3
June 2, 2016
6:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Tom Schmitt, Chair
John Geurs, Vice Chair
Gus Woodman
Frank Johnson
Roberta Podzius
Jack Nylund
Don Brazier
James Grose
Marie Nesfield
Jeff McAffee
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
OTHERS PRESENT: Jack Lorbeer, Transportation Planning Manager
Patrick Sage, Transportation Planner
Purab Adabala, Senior Transportation Analyst
I. Call to Order
Chair Schmitt called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. Approval of the Agenda
Chair Schmitt called for approval of the agenda for the June 2, 2016 CTOC meeting.
ACTION BY CTOC: Approval of the agenda for the June 2, 2016 Citizens Transportation Oversight
Commission as presented.
(Motion: Commissioner Grose; Second: Vice Chair Geurs; motion carried unanimously.
Commissioners Nylund, Brazier, and McAffee were not yet present.)
111. Approval of Minutes from May 12, 2016 Meeting
Chair Schmitt called for approval of the minutes.
ACTION BY CTOC: Approval of the minutes from the May 12, 2016 meeting of the Citizens
Transportation Oversight Commission as written.
(Motion: Commissioner Woodman; Second: Commissioner Johnson; motion carried
unanimously. Commissioners Nylund, Brazier, and McAffee were not yet present.)
IV. Call to the Audience
No comments.
V. Commissioners and Staff Updates
[Commissioner McAffee entered the meeting.]
Vice Chair Geurs commented that at the April 24, 2016 City Council meeting, during which the Council
voted on the West Phoenix/Central Glendale High Capacity Study recommendations, some Council
members appeared to not be familiar with the information provided to the CTOC and the Citizens
Working Group regarding the study, and the resulting discussions and recommendations from those
bodies. Vice Chair Geurs wondered if and how the CTOC minutes are distributed to the Council
members, and expressed the opinion that a formal process should be established if not already in
place. Mr. Sage explained that under the current process, the full minutes are uploaded to the City
website once the minutes have been reviewed and approved by the CTOC. However, Transportation
staff does not distribute the final, approved minutes directly to Council members. Vice Chair Geurs
asked if the Council members are notified when the minutes are posted to the City website. Mr. Sage
replied that Transportation staff does not provide direct notification.
[Commissioner Nylund entered the meeting.]
Mr. Lorbeer stated that staff will evaluate the current process for distribution of the CTOC meeting
minute and consider opportunities to make the process more effective.
Vice Chair Geurs also suggested the City adopt a standard template for the minutes from all City boards
and commissions, so that they are more uniform and accessible for City Council member review.
Chair Schmitt stated that during the April 24 City Council meeting, Council member Tolmachoff
provided informed comments regarding the high capacity transit study process and recommendations.
Based on her comments, it was clear (to him) that she had read the CTOC minutes.
The development of a brief synopsis of all of the CTOC activities and meeting minutes regarding the
West Phoenix/Central Glendale High Capacity Study was suggested, since the project was discussed
over several meetings.
Commissioner Podzius commented that one of the Council members was new and that may have led
to additional questions by that Council member.
Commissioner Podzius stressed that it is very important for CTOC Commissioners, when making public
statements, to remain consistent with their prior votes on Commission business, and accurately
represent the Commission vote outcome. Chair Schmitt agreed, and asked for Commissioner Johnson
to explain his statement made during the April 24 City Council meeting, where he refuted that the
CTOC vote in support of the West Phoenix/Central Glendale High Capacity Transit study was
unanimous.
Commissioner Johnson read aloud a detailed explanation of his public comments made at the April 24
Council meeting. Commissioner Johnson stated that while at the Council meeting, after reviewing
Resolution 5108, which was on the Council agenda to be voted upon, he became deeply concerned
regarding the term "unanimous support" in regards to the recommendations that CTOC had voted
upon and that are referenced in the Resolution. Commissioner Johnson stated that he did not
remember voting to support a high capacity transit route along Glenn Avenue, only further evaluation
of route alternatives, and that he expressed concern at a CTOC meeting regarding the width of Glenn
Avenue to accommodate both automobile traffic and light rail operation requirements. He noted that
this comment was not included in the final minutes from the February 18th CTOC meeting.
Commissioner Johnson stated that while he does support light rail to downtown Glendale and even
further west to the stadium/entertainment district, he does think that other less expensive routes
need more consideration. Commissioner Johnson added that he meant no disrespect to the CTOC, but
felt obligated to express his opinion at the City Council meeting. Commissioner Johnson announced his
resignation and exited the meeting.
[Commissioner Brazier entered the meeting.]
Commissioner Podzius commented that all persons are entitled to express their opinions at public
meetings; however, it is important that members not make statements that publically contradict their
votes made as a member of their Commission.
Mr. Lorbeer stated that CTOC meeting minutes are prepared and presented to members for their
review prior to adoption, so that items missing or requiring correction can be identified. CTOC
members should note any necessary corrections prior to voting for approval of the minutes during the
subsequent CTOC meeting.
Commissioner Nesfield inquired as to why the Grand Avenue route for light rail was not selected.
Commissioner Podzius explained that this was due to ridership numbers presented by Valley Metro,
which indicated that the 43rd Avenue route had higher estimated ridership.
Vice Chair Geurs indicated that he also spoke at the April 24 City Council meeting, but did not indicate
that he was a CTOC member; rather, he spoke as a private citizen.
VI. Manager's Report
Mr. Lorbeer provided a status update/information on the following topics. Commissioner comments
are included as well.
o School Zone Speed Limits: 30 MPH Speed Limit on Arterials
Mr. Lorbeer explained that this is the appropriate speed reduction for a school zone on an
arterial, according to Arizona Revised Statutes. Speed reductions by more than 10 mph
compared to the regular posted speed are not permitted by the ARS.
Since this issue and others raised recently by CTOC members are best addressed as
enforcement issues, staff is exploring the potential to conduct regular coordination meetings
with the Glendale Police Department regarding transportation enforcement issues that are
brought through CTOC. Commissioner Podzius stated that the local CAT Officer for Cholla
District would be a good contact for this issue.
o Speed Limit Policy — Comparison with Adjacent Jurisdictions
Mr. Lorbeer explained that currently the maximum speed limit differential between Glendale
streets and any adjacent jurisdiction is 5 mph, and that City staff is performing a speed limit
study that will soon be completed and documented. Chair Schmitt commented that a 5 mph
differential may not appear to be a very big difference; however, to a motorist it could appear
to be a "speed trap." Chair Schmitt still had concerns with the 5 mph differential.
o Bus Stop Safety - Overnight Camping at Bus Stops
Mr. Lorbeer explained that the current bench design for bus stops in the City include "vandal
bars" that dissuade people from lying down on the benches. When possible, these vandal bars
are retrofitted to existing benches.
Vice Chair Geurs expressed curiosity regarding the cost for retrofitting benches versus stricter
enforcement of the existing urban camping laws. Mr. Lorbeer commented that the police must
be cognizant of actual bus riders versus those who are loitering at bus stops.
o West Phoenix/Central Glendale HCT Study
Mr. Lorbeer provided a recap from the April 24 Council resolution regarding the study and
subsequent project developments/updates.
Vice Chair Geurs inquired if Valley Metro will return to CTOC to provide an update on the
planning process. Vice Chair Geurs wanted to know more about the route elimination process
and why various routes and modes of transportation were eliminated. Vice Chair Geurs added
that this way, the public will know all of the reasons why certain routes and modes were
eliminated. Commissioner Podzius stated that Valley Metro has already provided presentations
to CTOC over multiple meetings on the various routes and modes considered, and the process
rational for elimination and eventual selection of the preferred route and mode. Chair Schmitt
commented that a summary of all Valley Metro presentations would be beneficial.
o North Glendale Park & Ride
Mr. Lorbeer discussed that site identification and land acquisition process continues, with
negotiations on preferred site currently underway.
Chair Schmitt inquired about the City policy on condemnation. Mr. Lorbeer replied that the City
does not want to utilize that method to acquire the parcel. Vice Chair Geurs noted that the
condemnation policy was used for the Boys and Girls Club in Phoenix. Mr. Lorbeer agreed that
this policy was used in the past; however, at this time a friendly negotiation is being utilized.
o FY2017-2041 GO Program
Annual (2015) financial update and Draft GO Program of Projects will be presented at the
August 2016 meeting.
o Northern Parkway
Mr. Lorbeer explained that the project is on hold pending collection of additional traffic counts,
assessment, and analysis by MAG.
Chair Schmitt commented that the City of Glendale has already spent funds and committed
additional funds to the project. Mr. Lorbeer replied in the positive and stated that this will be a
point of discussion with the other partners in the project. Mr. Lorbeer added that this is a long
range project, 10-20 years, and it is important to maintain the long term vision. Chair Schmitt
inquired as to the agreement made with the other cities involved in the project. Mr. Lorbeer
commented that an agreement was indeed made; however, the agreement language allows for
partners to pull out of the project.
o Glendale Airport — GO Funding
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Mr. Lorbeer discussed that GO funds are used for local matches for all Airport capital projects,
and that the 2017: 5 -Year Airport CIP includes multiple paving projects.
Commissioner Podzius stated that she was interested in the amount of GO Funds used at the
Airport, as there have been some major paving projects completed recently. Commissioner
Podzius also requested a tour of the Airport since it is within the CTOC purview.
Chair Schmitt thanked Mr. Lorbeer for the report.
VII. CTOC Performance Measures Annual Assessment
Mr. Sage gave a presentation on the Annual Assessment of the CTOC Goals and Performance
Measures, which included the following information:
o Purpose & History
o CTOC Goals
o Ensure Public Input
o Ensure Governmental Accountability
o Monitor Fund Expenditure
o Recommend Adjustments to the GO Program
o Make Recommendations to Council on:
o Evaluation Period
o Trial Evaluation Period: September 1, 2015 through June 30, 2016
o First Full Evaluation Period: FY2017 —July 1, 2016 through June 30, 2017
Commissioner McAffee asked how the Commissioners could obtain a calendar of events for
achievement of the Public Input Goal. Mr. Sage noted that meeting dates for all City boards and
commissions are posted on the City website, and that Commissioners can also attend state and
regional events/meetings to fulfill the goal. Mr. Sage expressed that staff provides information to
members on potential meetings and events of interest when they come to staff's attention.
Commissioner Podzius also suggested signing up for the Council members' email lists.
Commissioner Nylund inquired if unmet goals would affect funding. Mr. Sage replied in the negative,
but noted that it is certainly in CTOC's best interest to achieve all of the goals.
Chair Schmitt thanked staff for the presentation.
VIII. CTOC Roles and Responsibilities
Responding to a request from Chair Schmitt, Mr. Lorbeer gave a presentation on CTOC roles and
responsibilities as currently defined. The presentation included the following items:
o CTOC is Governed by City Code Section 2-320. The code describes that the powers and duties of
the commission shall be advisory in nature and all acts and actions thereof shall be subject to
review by the City Council; CTOC authority is not limited solely to oversight of GO Program; any
changes to the Powers and Duties of CTOC would take Council Action to amend the City Code,
and; CTOC itself does not have the power to modify its own role
o CTOC Powers and Duties as defined by Section 2-320. These include
• Ensure that transportation projects and programs approved by voters are implemented
in a fair, cost effective and timely manner in accord with the voters
• Advise the City Council on regional transportation issues, public transit, bicycle issues,
and issues related to alternative modes of transportation.
• Include sales tax funded projects in a fiscally balanced long range program that is
updated every year, submitted for Council approval.
• Provide an annual report on the program to Council
o Roles and Responsibilities — Next Steps
• CTOC input on roles and responsibilities
• Review CTOC input with Transportation Management -
• Transportation Staff to provide recommendations on the commission roles and
responsibilities
Mr. Lorbeer commented that he recently met with the City Attorney's Office for guidance, who
confirmed that, based on the applicable city code, CTOC could advise Council on transportation
matters that are not directly related to GO Funds. Mr. Lorbeer added that CTOC could even advise on
bicycle issues, although there is an active Citizens Bicycle Advisory Committee.
Chair Schmitt commented that at a recent Council meeting, the Council was reviewing an ordinance
which prohibited backing into a parking space. Council member Aldama had asked if any city
commission had reviewed and made a recommendation on the issue, which had not occurred. Chair
Schmitt noted that it appeared that Council wanted information and/or recommendation from a city
commission. Chair Schmitt wondered if this was an issue which the CTOC could have reviewed and
made a recommendation. Mr. Lorbeer replied in the positive and added that the CTOC and staff could
set a scope of issues to be brought before CTOC for discussion and recommendation if the issue is not
directly related to Go Program.
Commissioner Podzius stated that Council should be informed that CTOC is available to advise on
transportation issues in addition to Go Program. Chair Schmitt inquired as to how CTOC would be
informed of issues outside of GO Program requiring attention. Mr. Adabala replied that staff is usually
informed of issues a month or two before Council vote. Chair Schmitt suggested a list of bulleted items.
Mr. Lorbeer commented a balance of items for review will be needed to ensure CTOC is reviewing
issues of strong importance or high visibility. Commissioner McAffee inquired as to how the CTOC
agenda is set. Mr. Lorbeer stated that CTOC and staff together set the agenda via the "Future Agenda"
items section of the meetings. Chair Schmitt stated that he does contact Mr. Sage with agenda
suggested. Commissioner Podzius agreed that she does so as well. Mr. Lorbeer noted that all
Commissioners are welcome to provide staff with agenda topic requests via email, in addition to during
meetings under "Future Agenda Items."
Commissioner Nylund commented that the CTOC is seated with members of great experience and
background and Council should utilize the talent of CTOC.
Mr. Lorbeer and staff will work to develop the process of adding additional agenda items requiring
review and recommendation outside of the GO fund scope.
IX. Go Program Audit
Mr. Adabala requested that the CTOC table this item until the next CTOC meeting. Staff needs
additional time to address multiple recommendations identified in the audit.
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X. Future Agenda Items
(Commissioners reviewed the staff -generated list of upcoming agenda items, which was provided as a
handout and compiled of topics previously requested by Commissioners and from topics identified as
relevant by staff).
Commissioner Nylund requested a presentation by the appropriate City department on right of way
maintenance along City streets, particularly related to landscaping and visibility from side streets.
Commissioner Nylund commented that in his neighborhood there are areas where shrubs are blocking
the traffic line of sight, and accidents have occurred as a result. Commissioner Podzius suggested
speaking with Councilmember Tolmachoff. Mr. Adabala asked Commissioner Nylund to email staff
specific details regarding the location in any of these types of instances, explaining that that
Commissioners do not have to wait fora Commission meeting to inform staff of concerns.
Vice Chair Geurs suggested that a roll call be taken for CTOC votes, especially in light of the recent issue
with the vote related to the high capacity transit study. Commissioner Nylund agreed with the roll call
vote concept. Chair Schmitt agreed that a roll call vote could be done, particularly with a controversial
issue. Commissioner Woodman suggested that the name of the dissenting vote should be included in
the minutes as well.
Vice Chair Geurs asked if Commissioner absences should be formally noted as part of the meeting
agenda (such as with a roll call agenda item), citing that another city commission on which he
participated documented absences in this manner. Commissioner Podzius commented that
Commissioners should state during meetings if they cannot make an upcoming meeting, which would
then be included in the minutes. Mr. Sage added that Commissioners are also requested to contact
him when possible prior to a meeting to inform of an absence if they did not provide that information
during the prior meeting.
Vice Chair Geurs suggested increasing the estimated time for Agenda Item V. for Commissioners to
make specific comments. Commissioner Grose reminded all that when replying to an email from staff,
only hit "Reply" not "Reply All" to avoid issues with the_Open Meeting Law.
Chair Schmitt noted that he does recall that Commissioner Johnson did expressed concerns about the
width of Glenn Avenue in regards to the light rail issue, which Chair Schmitt did not see reflected in the
meeting minutes.
XI. Next Meeting Time
The July 7 meeting was cancelled. The next CTOC meeting is scheduled for Thursday, August 4, 2016 at
6:00 p.m. in Room B-3 in City Hall.
XII. -AdiMurnment
e meeting vVagadjourned by consensus at 7:55 p.m.
y6m Sclirnitt, Chair
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