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MINUTES OF THE
GLENDALE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
Council Chambers
5850 West Glendale Avenue
July 2,2013
7:00 p.m.
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Jerry P. Weiers. Vice Mayor Yvonne J. Knaack and
the following Councilmembers were present: Norma S. Alvarez, Samuel U. Chavira, Ian Hugh,
Manuel D. Martinez and Gary D. Sherwood.
Also present were Richard Bowers, Acting City Manager; Horatio Skeete, Assistant City
Manager;Nick DiPiazza, Acting City Attorney; and Pamela Hanna, City Clerk.
Mayor Weiers called for the Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence was observed.
Mayor Weiers asked Mr. Bowers if he was administratively removing Items 4 and 5 from the
agenda. Mr. Bowers replied that he did wish to remove Items 4 and 5 regarding billboards from
the agenda.
ORDINANCES
1. SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH SW GENERAL, INC. FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL
TRANSPORTATION
PRESENTED BY: Mark Burdick, Fire Chief
This is a request for Council to waive reading beyond the title and adopt an ordinance
authorizing the City Manager to enter into a service agreement with SW General, Inc., dba
Southwest Ambulance (Southwest Ambulance), for the purpose of emergency medical
transportation.
Chief Burdick said the re-negotiated contract will enhance the level of service provided and
generate additional funding for the Fire Department to provide additional medical services.
Chief Burdick discussed the items in the contract more specifically.
Councilmember Alvarez asked if the overtime reimbursement, which will be paid by Southwest
Ambulance is going into the general fund or directly to the Fire Department. Chief Burdick said
all funds go through the general fund when they are received, but would eventually go back to
the Fire Department. Councilmember Alvarez asked several questions regarding overtime costs
and ambulances the city owns.
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ORDINANCE NO. 2854 NEW SERIES, WAS READ BY NUMBER AND TITLE ONLY,
IT BEING, AN ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GLENDALE,
MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION
SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH SW GENERAL, INC., dba SOUTHWEST
AMBULANCE, FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION SERVICES; THE
LEASE OF SPACE AT FOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT STATIONS; THE LEASE OF
THREE CITY-OWNED AMBULANCES; AND THE DEDICATION OF CITY-
EMPLOYED PERSONNEL TO JOINTLY STAFF FOUR AMBULANCES.
Councilmember Sherwood asked to amend Ordinance No. 2854, as it was important for the
public to fully understand what the city is doing. He also said Ordinances should be reasonably
self-contained and suggested the following changes. The second clause in section 1 to read,
"Lease of three city-owned ambulances to Southwest Ambulance for $108,000 annually," and
amend the third clause of section 1 to read, "And the dedication of city-employed personnel for
joint EMT and paramedic staffing for four ambulances for which the city will be fully
reimbursed by Southwest Ambulance."
Councilmember Alvarez asked if an Ordinance had to be posted for 72 hours if changes were
made to it. Discussion was held with Mr. DiPiazza regarding the changes to the Ordinance. He
said the changes were relatively minor and the Ordinance was properly posted.
Mayor Weiers asked if Southwest Ambulance was in agreement with the changes. Chief
Burdick said he could not speak for Southwest Ambulance, but he did not see any issues.
It was moved by Councilmember Sherwood, and seconded by Vice Mayor Knaack, to
approve Ordinance No. 2854 New Series with amendments. Motion carried on a roll call
vote, with the following Councilmembers voting "aye": Alvarez, Chavira, Hugh, Knaack,
Martinez, Sherwood, and Weiers. Members voting "nay": none.
2. PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND ARENA LEASE AGREEMENT
WITH ICEARIZONA MANAGER CO., LLC AND ICEARIZONA HOCKEY CO., LLC
PRESENTED BY: Richard Bowers,Acting City Manager
This is a request for City Council to vote to adopt an ordinance authorizing and directing the City
Manager to enter into a Professional Management Services and Arena Lease Agreement with
IceArizona Manager Co., LLC and IceArizona Hockey Co., LLC for the use of the city-owned
Jobing.com Arena by the Phoenix Coyotes.
Mr. Bowers said the city has been working for the past four years on a deal to keep the Coyotes
in Glendale. Mr. Bowers explained in detail his concern over the level of risk that RSE expected
the city to take on and the city's reluctance to take on that risk. He discussed RSE's refusal to
give the city an early termination clause in the contract, and he said he believed this was a bad
business deal for the city.
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Mr. Nick Wood, Snell & Wilmer, attorney for RSE, first said the name of the team would be
changed to the Arizona Coyotes. He said attendance at the games has continued to increase,
despite the recession. He said an urban core is being built here. He discussed potential effects of
the loss of the team. He spoke about enhancing existing revenues to the city and creating new
ones which included a ticket surcharge, rent for exclusive team areas, parking fees and naming
rights. He talked about the reliability of the revenue projections RSE has made. He said they
have tried to be conservative in their projections, but they are still an educated guess. He said
each party to this contract must have manageable risk. No one will get everything they ask for.
He said giving the city a five year opt out clause is not something they can accept. He said they
will bring on Global Spectrum as a subcontractor to assist managing the arena and they bring
with them entertainment clout. With Global Spectrum in the picture, RSE is proposing if they
end up leaving at the end of five years, they have to make the city whole for the losses the city
may incur. He said the city now has the equivalent of any of the four bidders for the RFP, as
well as the Coyotes. He also reiterated that the NHL has agreed to let the city pay the $25
million owed over the next five years. Mr. Wood introduced his client, Mr. Anthony Leblanc.
Mr. Anthony Leblanc said this agreement is in the best interest of the city and its citizens. He
spoke about the leaders in the Coyotes team. He talked about the benefit of having Global
Spectrum on board with this deal. He spoke in detail about the recent changes in the deal and the
revenue potential to the city. He said this is a great market for hockey and gave a couple of
examples, and he and his team are committed to this metropolitan area. He said they are
guaranteeing the city that its revenues will be no less than $45 million over the first five years. If
the revenues to the city are not $45 million, IceArizona will pay the shortfall to the city to
exercise its out clause. He listed the members of his investment team as follows: Avic Day of
Houston, Texas, Dave Duckett of Calgary and Scottsdale, William Dutton of British Columbia
and Scottsdale, George Fink of Calgary, George Gosby of Calgary, Robert Gwinn of Houston,
Texas, Darrell Jones of New Haven, Connecticut, Anthony Leblanc of Ottawa, Canada, Scott
Sacksburg of Calgary, and Craig Stewart of Calgary. He said he has a full appreciation of the
weight of the decision before the Council tonight, and he knows the Council wants to do the right
thing for the city. He said both he and the Council wanted to see a successful and vibrant
Westgate. Mr. Leblanc introduced Gary Bettman, Commissioner of the National Hockey
League.
Mr. Gary Bettman said the fans and business community have been very supportive through this
process. He said the NHL is very aware of the impact of keeping the club in Glendale. He
hoped the decision would be to keep the team in Arizona.
Mr. Gary Birnbaum, outside counsel, next spoke to the Council. He explained the progress made
and went over some key points in the negotiations over the last six days.
Councilmember Martinez said they previously heard from Mr. Wood that there were nine items
including the out clause that were off the table. Mr. Birnbaum said he was providing a history of
where each party stood at this point in time. He said there were nine key items identified in a
press release. He said actually there were closer to 29 items. He was just highlighting some of
the most important items. He referenced 41 guaranteed hockey games and said if for some
reason the Coyotes doesn't play 41 games, the city has insisted there be a payment to the city of
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$150,000 per game not played. He said as of today, these points have all been agreed to by both
parties. Mr. Birnbaum said they have been very successful in following direction of the Council
and protecting the city's interests in this deal. He said RSE has now found a way to meet all the
needs of the city with one exception, the city's out clause.
Mr. Birnbaum also spoke about the economic aspects of the deal, including the disparity between
the $6 million budgeted by the city and the $15 million required by RSE to manage the arena.
To make up the difference, RSE offered the city a share inrevenue streams which may be
substantial. Mr. Birnbaum explained in detail several of the proposed revenue streams and how
much money the city could expect from these revenue streams, including a $3.00 surcharge per
hockey ticket, a $5.00 surcharge per ticket on non-hockey events, and a $10.00 parking fee,
minus $20,000 per game, which the manager will retain. He also spoke about naming rights of
Jobing.com arena and naming rights for the smaller facility inside the arena which may be built.
He said the arena manager proposed revenue streams of about $8 to $11 million range. Mr.
Birnbaum said the arena manager cannot confirm revenue streams of$8 to $11 million, and this
is what has caused Mr. Bowers' concern with this agreement.
Mr. Birnbaum then spoke about the early termination or out clause in the contract. He said the
city suggested it get the same out clause for 180 days after five years, only if they have lost $50
million. Mr. Birnbaum said RSE will not agree to give the city an out clause, but RSE offered if
they leave after five years, they will pay the city any losses incurred above $6 million a year.
Mr. Birnbaum said Mr. Bowers was concerned if the revenue projections don't meet
expectations and RSE does not leave after five years. He said the accumulated losses will be
borne by the city and will continue for the entire 15 years of the agreement. He said that is the
one area where the parties have not been able to reach an agreement. He said the Council needs
to decide how much risk the city is willing to take on.
Vice Mayor Knaack said the opt out clause is the NHL's call, rather than RSE's call. She said
she personally asked Mr. Bettman about the opt out clause and Mr. Bettman said the opt out
clause for the city is not an option. She wanted to make that clear. Mr. Birnbaum said it is the
Council's decision if this is a risk they are willing to take on. He went on to discuss in more
detail the negotiations between the parties about the opt out clause and the reasons for the refusal
of that clause by RSE and the NHL.
Mayor Weiers asked Mr. Leblanc about the guarantee and if he had tried various lenders. Mr.
Leblanc said he only had two investment banks willing to invest in this opportunity. He said this
franchise has had a difficult past and there is not a long line of lenders for this deal. He said they
tried to get a better deal, but this is the best deal and only option they have. There was further
discussion about how this deal came about and the length of time it takes to reach a deal like this.
Mr. Leblanc said there was no option to work with any other lenders at this stage of the game.
Mayor Weiers asked if there was a possibility of putting this deal on hold for a couple of weeks
to have a chance to finalize all the details. He didn't want to rush into a deal without an
opportunity to try and make it better. Mr. Leblanc said he knew Mayor Weiers and the Council
was trying to do the best they could with this situation. He said this was not a new deal and the
timelines are what they are.
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Councilmember Martinez commented they have been at this for a long, long time and to suggest
at this last minute that they would ask for another two weeks, it is out of the question. He said
they have been told that and they either do something tonight or they don't do it. He said they
have been talking about this for literally months and the time and effort spent on this issue by
staff and the time spent on this by the owners of the team. He said based on what he has heard
previously and what he has heard tonight with respect to the out clause, RSE has offered to make
concessions. He said they have heard that RSE doesn't have the experience to manage the team
and get in the concerts and fill the venue. He said who better than Comcast and Global Spectrum
to strengthen this deal to no end. He said the issues discussed this evening have put an entirely
different picture on this.
Councilmember Alvarez asked where the city would get the $15 million to pay for this deal. She
said they have laid off employees, gone on furloughs and cut services, and police and fire need
additional personnel. Mr. Bowers said the money from the projected revenues could pay a
significant portion of the $15 million. However, he said this is an uncertain projection. He said
if the revenue streams did not balance out the amount owed, the Council needed to make a
decision on how to pay. He said RSE has committed about $1.2 million to a gap closing fund as
well. The rest of the $15 million becomes a matter of the revenue streams. He said Council has
to determine what their risk tolerance is and if they believe the revenue streams can produce the
money that will be owed. Councilmember Alvarez asked from 2003 to the present, how much
profit the city made from the arena and the Coyotes. Mr. Bowers said he did not know what that
number was. She asked if a profit had been made from 2003 to now. Ms. Schurhammer said it
depends on what you look at with the revenue and expenses. She said in general, the debt
service has exceeded the revenue that has been generated.
Councilmember Alvarez commented she does want the Coyotes here, but does not want it on the
backs of the taxpayers. She said property taxes have been raised, some library and recreation
programs are gone, some community centers and pools are closed. She said it was a sad day
when the city put sports and leisure facilities ahead of their constituents.
Councilmember Martinez said that the Coyotes have been the whipping boy forever. He said
it keeps being said that all the problems of the city are the fault of the Coyotes. He said we had
to reduce library hours, we had to cut some other things, and everything is the fault of the
Coyotes. He said the budget for FY08-09 was $925 million. Next year, the budget is $576
million, a decrease of$349 million. He said if the Coyotes weren't even here, something would
have to give because the revenues were not what they were during the good times. He said we
seem to forget and have short memories about what has been called the great recession. He said
he was older than a lot of people in this room, maybe the oldest, but with all that said we get
back to what we need to do. He said he was saying some things now he was going to save for
later, but he just wanted to point out with respect to the revenues coming in now, compared to
what was termed the great recession which was really, really bad. He said when he was young;
he was not old enough to realize there was a depression. Later he said he got to read about it in
the history books. He said let's not leave the Coyotes as a whipping boy. He said the decision
will be made here by the Council this evening based on what each one of them thinks is best for
the city. He said in his view, the best for the city will be to keep the Coyotes. He said this was
especially based on what he has heard tonight. The two new things that were added to the
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contract make this a much stronger agreement. He said the figures are conservative, very
conservative. He said there are all kinds of things, repeating some things he said last Friday,
there are businesses waiting in the wings, waiting for the decision tonight. He said last Friday
after the meeting, a gentleman stopped him on his way out and said he put some money down on
a condo at Westgate and Wednesday he would know if they would close or not. He said it was
not a perfect deal by any means, but certainly it is the best offer they have had.
Vice Mayor Knaack said it is time to move forward. The deal has been a long time in the
making and it will be a successful partnership.
Councilmember Alvarez said she is not blaming the Coyotes. She said it was the Council's fault
and they have made big, bad financial mistakes.
Councilmember Sherwood made a motion to have the Ordinance and Resolution read.
It was moved by Councilmember Sherwood, and seconded by Councilmember Martinez, to
read Ordinance No. 2855 New Series and Resolution No. 4703 New Series. Motion carried
with the following Councilmembers voting "aye": Alvarez, Chavira, Knaack, Martinez,
Sherwood, and Weiers. Members voting "nay": Hugh.
Councilmember Hugh asked if budget reductions would have to be done this year because only
$6 million has been budgeted for this item. Ms. Schurhammer said the decision on whether to
bring revenues in alignment with expenditures was up to the Council. She said the projection is
that the fund balance, if the Coyotes stay, would be about $8 million. Councilmember Hugh
asked how it would affect the budget if revenue streams fall short by $5 million. Ms.
Schurhammer discussed scenarios of drawing down the fund balance and making cuts in
expenditures. Further discussion was held regarding revenue streams and fund balances over the
next several years. Councilmember Hugh said the agreement only guaranteed funds if the
Coyotes left. Mr. Bowers said that was correct. Councilmember Hugh asked if any funds would
be repaid by RSE in years past the 5 year out clause. Mr. Wood said the agreement states that
funds would only be paid through the 5th year if RSE decides to opt out at that time.
Councilmember Sherwood said the numbers presented by staff were very conservative and did
not include the surcharge and the other items discussed at today's meeting. He said the city
wasn't going to lose any more than the $6 million that is budgeted in the next five years.
Julie Done, a Litchfield Park resident, said the choices she makes to spend her money are
affected by the vote tonight. She said she is an avid hockey fan and spends over $2,000 at
Westgate each hockey season. During the off season, she rarely comes to Westgate. She
believes there are many others who live in other cities and only come to Glendale to spend their
money during the hockey season. She will continue to spend thousands of dollars at Westgate if
the Coyotes stay.
Randy Exelby, a Scottsdale resident, played professional hockey in the early 1990's. He owns
three hockey stores in the area and has seen a tremendous growth in interest since hockey came
to Glendale. He talked about players who played youth hockey in the valley who were drafted
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into the NHL and athletes drafted to play hockey at several big name schools. He also spoke
about the youth sports events hosted by Jobing.com arena. His own employees tell their
customers about the great experience they will have at Westgate. He asked the Council to look
at the big picture of what the Coyotes bring to the community.
Craig Conley, a Scottsdale resident, said the model hasn't worked here in over 10 years, and
asked what RSE can do to make it work. He wanted to know why RSE would take $15 million
from the city if they were so confident in the team being successful. He asked if RSE is so
confident, why is all the risk being put on the city. He asked where the city is going to be in five
years if RSE leaves and how much more debt will the city have to take on.
JoJo Fraser, a Tempe resident, said he is a hockey fan, but said this is about an investment in
Glendale's future. He said it is an investment in the arena. He said there isn't a reason in the
world why hockey couldn't work in a city of this size.
Paul Miller, a Barrel resident, said he lived here when there was no hockey. He said his son
plays hockey and it has benefitted him. He said hockey can work, provided the right people are
in place. He said RSE are the right people and can make hockey work. He asked the Council to
have vision and take a risk. He said this decision impacts all Arizona residents.
Kelly Roberts, a Mesa resident, is the owner of Just Sports. He said they sell a lot of Coyotes
and NHL merchandise. He said Westgate is a unique retailer. He said Westgate has a great
energy and the cooperative nature of the businesses is a great thing.
Monique Reaux, a Phoenix resident, asked the Council to think about what the team has been
through. She said no one has brought the team forward to make money as a hockey team, as a
separate entity. A lot of people are signing on with this project to create a success. She said Mr.
Leblanc and the fans are still here, many years after the bankruptcy. She is still spending her
money at Westgate. She asked them to bring the team forward and let them be successful. She
said to take the deal and move forward.
Kenneth Sturgis, a Yucca resident, said if RSE is so confident in their projects, why don't they
pay the $6 million and keep all the revenue streams for themselves. He spoke about Global
Spectrum partnering with RSE. He asked why Global Spectrum didn't bid on the RFP. He said
this deal requires more careful review. He also asked why the city is willing to give RSE $15
million a year, when there were two qualified bidders for the RFP who would manage the arena
for less than half that amount. He spoke about the proposal to use city hall as collateral to pay
for arena management fees.
Michelle Galan, a Yucca resident, said she lives close enough to walk to the Coyotes games. She
said she pays taxes and votes in Glendale. She said if the team leaves, her property value will go
down and the Canadians will leave and not come back. She said she has seen how empty
Westgate has been. People from out of town come to Westgate to spend money.
Rev. Jarrett Maupin, a Phoenix resident, said he understood the fans and how they felt about the
team. He said the city should ask RSE to do the fiscally responsible thing. He said he was
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outraged when the city let RSE tell them what to do. He said the investors are confusing and
manipulating the fans. He said there can be a better deal.
Ken Jones, an Ocotillo resident, said we don't have the money to pay $15 million to RSE. He
said he has a solution to this Coyotes problem and that is to give them $15 million a year with a
guarantee the city gets anything over $6 million. He read a statement and asked the Council to
amend the agreement with RSE. The statement said, "I, Councilmember (your name), make a
motion to amend this lease as follows. The Renaissance owners have said Glendale will receive
a minimum of$8 million annually if we pay them $15 million. To protect our city and make
sure we receive the total $8 million, Glendale shall deduct any shortage below the $8 million
from $15 million we are to pay them." He said with this language in the agreement, no one
would have to take a risk.
Larry Feiner, a Sahuaro resident, asked that the Council get the right deal to save Westgate. He
said pushing any harder is a sign they are not negotiating in good faith. He said requiring the
city take no risk in this deal is not reasonable.
Arthur Thruston, a Cactus resident, said he loves Glendale. He spoke about the previous deals to
buy the Coyotes and the failure of those agreements. He talked about the Councilmembers who
wanted this deal.
Vinnie Calicardi, Vice President of Johnny Rockets, and a Goodyear resident, said one of his
locations is at Westgate. He said Westgate is an events driven destination. He said without the
Coyotes, his business and Westgate in general would suffer. He said they provide a lot of
opportunities to their employees as well as donating to charities. He said none of that would be
possible if the Coyotes leave. He said it is a greater risk without the Coyotes.
Andrew Williams, a Phoenix resident, said he loves the Coyotes and Cardinals and spends a lot
of money in Glendale. He said if the Coyotes leave the city, both Police and Fire will lose
employees. He said it will also hurt Westgate and the Cardinals, as well. He asked Council to
vote to keep the Coyotes.
Jennifer Lacey, a Sahuaro resident, supports keeping the Coyotes. She believes in economic
development and how it will continue development of the Westgate district. She said the city
cannot afford to make it more difficult for businesses to keep their doors open. She said creating
a smaller, theater type venue is a good idea, but it will also compete with venues of similar size.
She said Council continues to ask for guarantees, but the entertainment industry fluctuates from
year to year and is dependent upon the economy. She said Glendale cannot afford to lose the
Coyotes. She said Coyotes fans come from all over the valley.
Darrin Lacey, a Sahuaro resident, said to insure a stable business environment in west Glendale,
Westgate needs an anchor tenant. He said businesses are watching this vote to determine if they
want to move to Glendale. He said the concerns about RSE and Global Spectrum have been
addressed. He said Jobing.com arena will be a successful Glendale attraction. He said this
agreement offers many guarantees that previous agreements did not. The revenue streams will
help offset costs.
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Bea Wyatt, a Cave Creek resident, representing Glendale First said she felt the Councilmembers
had been diligent in their investigation of the previous agreements. She talked about Glendale
having heart in the community. She said the Coyotes gave over $500,000 to local children's
charities. She showed some photos of team members and their charitable deeds.
Mr. Bowers commented about risk tolerance and the factors to take into consideration. He said
the addition of Global Spectrum is a substantive one. He said the guarantee at five years if the
club leaves is a positive; however, there is still risk of losing and not recovering money if the
club stays. He said the Coyotes out clause is a positive in this matter. He asked Mr. Birnbaum to
share any comments he had.
Mr. Birnbaum pointed out five items and discussed each of these. He talked about the resolution
and when the deal must close. He suggested specific language to change the resolution and
ordinance, "Execution of the agreement must take place by July 8th at the time stated and closing
of the transaction must take place by August 5th." He also discussed additional minor changes to
the agreement. Next he discussed the non-relocation agreement and some changes that need to
be made regarding liquidated damages of$9 million for each year remaining in the professional
services management agreement. He also reminded the Council that the agreement includes
language regarding the city's early termination right. Mr. Birnbaum talked about fees owed to
the city if RSE utilizes the early termination clause in the agreement.
Councilmember Sherwood made a motion to approve the Ordinance with the changes discussed
by Mr. Birnbaum. The amendments Councilmember Sherwood suggested were related by Mr.
Birnbaum. Mr. Birnbaum said amendment number one was to correct the ordinance to provide
that execution must occur by July 8, 2013 and closing by August 5, 2013. Councilmember
Sherwood asked if July 8th was enough time with the changes. Mr. Birnbaum said the
documents could be prepared and he said Mr. Wood and Mr. Leblanc would agree.that July 8th
would not be a problem. Mr. Birnbaum said the second amendment was to accept the technical
modifications of sections 5.1, 6.1, 9.13 and 16.3.6 that appear in version 4 of the Professional
Management Services Agreement. Mr. Birnbaum said the third item is to modify sections 6.1.b
and Exhibit A of the Non-Relocation Agreement to provide for liquidated damages in the event
of a relocation default of$9 million for each year or partial year remaining during the term of the
Professional Management Services Agreement, further clarifying that an early termination under
section 3.3 of that agreement is not a relocation default, and specifying that any other default
under the relocation agreement would provide to the city all rights and remedies available at law,
in equity or under any of the agreements, but not the liquidated damage provision which relates
only to a relocation default.
Councilmember Sherwood clarified they were speaking about the ordinance itself. He said he
was looking at the ordinance and he did not see any of that in the ordinance. Mr. Birnbaum said
that information was not in the ordinance. He said it is in the document that is adopted via the
ordinance. Councilmember Sherwood said he was trying to get the wording changed on the
ordinance. Mr. Birnbaum said the ordinance and resolution should be amended to include the
modifications of the documents referred to in the ordinance and resolution. Mr. Birnbaum said
the last item was to add a provision to the Professional Management Services Agreement to
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modify section 3.3 to state in the event of an early termination by the arena manager, the arena
manager will pay to the city the accumulated losses that the city has had during the first five
years in excess in any year of$6 million. He also said if the intention was to delete section 3.4,
that also should be an amendment. Councilmember Sherwood said that was his intention.
Councilmember Sherwood asked if limiting the lease use agreement was mentioned. Mr.
Birnbaum said there was no disagreement about that however some technical modifications have
been negotiated with RSE of the designation of what property is being leased, so the lease
applies only to what is defined as the exclusive team spaces and language has been prepared to
effectuate that as well. Councilmember Sherwood asked about the license versus lease issue
regarding parking. Mr. Birnbaum said the license versus lease is part of the issue of what can be
leased and what cannot be leased. He said that was also covered by language they have drafted
Councilmember Sherwood made a motion to amend the ordinance and resolution with
language as stated by Mr. Birnbaum. The motion was seconded by Councilmember
Martinez.
Councilmember Hugh said he wasn't sure what the motion was. Mr. Birnbaum said the
Councilmember Sherwood's motion was to delete section 3.4, which is the city's early
termination right. Councilmember Hugh commented the Council wanted to protect the city a
few days ago with an out clause and now don't want to protect the city and they are removing the
city's five year out clause. He also said the city will be on the hook for $15 million for the next
15 years. He said the city would not be able to hire the police and fire personnel that are needed,
nor would the city be able to increase staffing levels with this kind of debt. Mr. Bowers said
there was no way to predict this and there was no guarantee. He said the assumptions the
Council makes about the revenue streams will set the city's financial position. Councilmember
Hugh said Council had talked about the leaseback of city hall on several occasions, which
included a leaseback of the public safety building as well, and those buildings would have to be
put up as collateral. Councilmember Hugh said the city doesn't have any reserve funds and is not
sure why the city wants to take on more debt and the possibility of putting up city buildings as
collateral. He said the only guarantee the city is getting is for 41 hockey games. He said there is
nothing in the contract that requires RSE to do anything other than offer the 41 hockey games
per year. Councilmember Hugh said all the city is getting are promises. He said it is a huge risk
to the city.
Mr. Birnbaum said there is no provision guaranteeing non-hockey events. He said they did add a
provision that acknowledges that the arena manager is obligated to use due diligence to book
non-hockey events in the arena and notes their commitment to do so is an inducement that the
city has relied up in entering into this agreement, specifically because those non-hockey events
are general revenue streams that are available to the city. Councilmember Hugh said the
agreement says that RSE is not required to provide any events other than the hockey events. Mr.
Birnbaum said that is true. Councilmember Sherwood said there is no recourse for the city if
RSE does not get any additional events for the arena. Councilmember Hugh said the city is
stretched to the limits. He said there are no guarantees in this contract and the risks are huge. He
said the city cannot afford this. He said the city has other obligations coming due and he doesn't
see how the city can pay the $15 million per year. He mentioned the parking garage that needs
to be built, the Super Bowl coming up and asked if money is being set aside for these events.
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Councilmember Sherwood said Global Spectrum did not participate in the RFP process because
they knew it could not be done without a hockey team. He said the buyback of city buildings
was never discussed in workshop and said it came out from an e-session. He said the numbers
presented by Ms. Schurhammer did not show any layoffs in any department and the numbers
presented were very conservative. Councilmember Sherwood said the numbers of risks have
been reduced over the last several days with the new changes to the agreement, which include
the new agreement with Global Spectrum. He disagreed that the risks are much greater. He said
the risks have been reduced significantly over the last several days. He said this is the best deal
they have gotten over the last several years and he can't imagine Westgate without the hockey
team. He said numerous businesses have come forward and stated without the hockey team,
their doors would close. He said he would vote yes for this deal.
Councilmember Alvarez said she hasn't shared information discussed in the executive session.
Mr. Birnbaum cautioned Councilmember Alvarez not to speak about anything discussed in
executive session. Councilmember Alvarez accepted Mr. Birnbaum's advice, but said they have
to be transparent, and she will do what she wants. She said the comments she was going to make
were not from executive session. She discussed the city's termination clause and said they
needed that assurance from RSE. She said they all agreed they needed to have the same
termination clause that RSE had. She said the Council was very concerned about this and now it
seems that Council is okay with not having the clause. She said she does not agree with giving
$15 million on the backs of the taxpayers.
Councilmember Martinez emphasized he did not know about the lease of city hall until the item
showed up in the newspaper. He said it never came to workshop. He said it had been discussed
one time, two or three years ago. The civic center, the adult center and city hall could be leased
to get some revenue. It was also his understanding that in those discussions, city hall was taken
off the table. He said he did not know how it happened that something as important as that did
not come to workshop and they are reading about it in the newspaper or when they get their
council book for the next meeting. He said tonight two items were pulled regarding digital signs
that had not been brought to Council. He wanted to know who got that on the agenda. He said
Mr. Bowers was gone and asked him if he could answer the question of who directed and,
authorized that agenda item to appear on tonight' agenda when Council had not discussed it.
Mayor Weiers said he didn't think that was pertinent to this discussion. Councilmember
Martinez said it was very pertinent because they were talking about actions being done in the
Council chambers without the Council even knowing about it until they get it in their council
books on Friday. He said the Council is supposedly the ruling body and to have things like that
done. He said he wanted an answer. Mayor Weiers said he understood his point, but said there
was a motion and a second on the floor and there was discussion on the motion. He said
Councilmember Martinez was getting off target and asked him to stick to the motion.
Councilmember Martinez said he would get to it in a minute. He said others have commented on
this. He said he didn't raise that issue. He said Councilmember Hugh was the first one to raise
this whole issue about the lease. He said people that are hearing this think Council wants to sell
city hall. He said that is not the case and he does not like those comments thrown out that is why
he is taking the time to explain it. He said if he doesn't get an answer tonight, he wanted an
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answer as to how those two agenda items got on the agenda. He said someone had to make a
decision.
Councilmember Martinez then said if they had voted on the Coyotes issue last Friday, he would
have voted not to support the agreement. He also gave his reasons why. He said if the Coyotes
leave, the debt service is still there on the arena and the city still bears the cost to operate the
arena. He mentioned the 500,000 people that come to the games. Without the anchor tenant,
there would be no more Tanger Outlet mall or Cabela's, also more businesses are scheduled to
come to Westgate and all the traffic it generates and the sales tax. Without a team, there would
be a big gap in the revenues, as well. This evening they heard there was a change in the out
clause and he said that was a big change. He said of course things had changed. He also said the
city would lose $1.7 million in sales. Tanger added 900 permanent jobs and several hundred
construction jobs, and continued development at Westgate would result in a couple thousand new
jobs. Between Westgate and Zanjero, there are well over 100 acres of land to be developed, at
least three more Tanger sized developments, which is a conservative number. Development of
retail and hotels will allow over $500 million per year in incremental taxes likely before the end
of the decade, growing to over $10 million a year in new taxes upon full build out. He said the
Council established criteria for negotiations with potential buyers of the Phoenix Coyotes,
including keeping the team in Glendale for the full length of the lease, keeping current revenues
intact, providing an opportunity to share in revenue streams where feasible. He believes that the
Coyotes will remain for the full length of the lease. Current revenues have not only been
maintained, but there are additional revenue streams that have been added. He said they have all
received emails from people on this issue, pro and con. He said they have six districts in the city
and the Department of Justice requires that the population in a municipality like Glendale in the
districts be as equal in population as possible. This means about 36,000 residents in each
district. With all the publicity generated by this issue, the discussions that have been had and
the meetings that have been had, up until about a week ago, Councilmember Martinez had two
emails and both of them were in support. Since last Friday, he got a lot more. He had the count,
but forgot it on his desk. He said the count was running about 4 or 5 to 1 in favor of keeping the
team here.
Councilmember Martinez said one of the emails he received is very interesting. He called the
gentleman to see if he could use some of his comments. These are not Councilmember
Martinez's thoughts, but the citizen's thoughts. He said the gentleman signed his petitions when
he was running for office, but he did not know he was from Canada. He gave him the authority
to read his email. He read, "Go to any mall in America. The anchor tenants are the key.
Without the anchor, you end up with Metro Center. Hockey will work in Arizona; we just need a
good owner. Ellman was not a good team owner, Moyes was worse. I know because I worked
for both of them. I also worked with the National Predators as a brand new franchise without
players, without anything. Yet, with a good owner and a great plan implemented by a
professional staff, we sold 13,000 season tickets in a market that did not know hockey. Imagine
what a good owner with a great plan would do in this great market with our wonderful building.
We will be the envy of the league. I wish I could show the Council what could be done. I grew
up marketing hockey and baseball. It will work. This city invested in sports almost a decade
ago. Think of it like a 401K. One does not bail out of a retirement package when the markets go
sour. You ride it out because you know that the payoff is down the road. It is the same thing
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here. Our payoff is 20 years down the road. We have to ride this out now to see that return on
our investment. Please encourage your fellow Council voters to think beyond their political
terms and envision the future of our city with their votes." Councilmember Martinez said all of
the conditions from last Friday, except the out clause, have been accepted. He said since Friday,
he learned that the NHL policy does not allow an out clause on lease agreements, however with
the other 8 provisions that were accepted, he will support moving forward. He said he believes
all of this makes this the best deal that has come to the Council. It was announced today that
Comcast will manage the arena. Councilmember Martinez said Mr. Theodore Hezberg, former
president of the University of Maryland once said, "my basic principle is that you don't make
decisions because they are easy, you don't make them because they are popular, you don't make
them because they are cheap, you make them because they are right." Councilmember Martinez
closed by saying when the Coyotes leave things will not get better, they will get worse. He will
vote to approve the ordinance on the table.
Councilmember Chavira asked Mr. Bowers about the assumptions and projections made
regarding the city finances in this deal. He asked about the growth and development in the city
and if they were positive. He said he was talking about Zanjero and Westgate. Mr. Bowers said
the positive projections of growth are with them on a daily basis. He said he tends to be more
conservative in his observations about revenue so he does not create a sense of certainty where
there is no certainty. Mr. Bowers said the projections of growth and development are possible,
but he is cautious about the uncertain revenues for this deal. Councilmember Chavira also asked
Mr. Leblanc if he had a very aggressive marketing plan. Mr. Leblanc said his background is in
marketing and said they have focused on the business side of the Coyotes. He said the hockey
side is moving along very well. His concern is the business side and they have put together a
business plan and marketing plan. Councilmember Chavira also asked Mr. Leblanc if the city
fails, do the Coyotes fail. Mr. Leblanc said that is correct. He said he does not get involved in a
project with the expectation of failure. Councilmember Chavira said he feels the same spirit
today as he does when firefighters run into a building. He felt Mr. Leblanc has the same
intensity to help fix the city. Mr. Leblanc thanked Councilmember Chavira for his service as a
firefighter and said it was an honor.
Vice Mayor Knaack provided an overview of where the city has been and where it was going on
this issue. She said they cannot lose the vision of what Westgate was supposed to be. Westgate
is an important part of the city's financial recovery. With the 41 games a year on a national
stage, no other tenant will bring the visitors and revenue that the Coyotes will. She said five
years of uncertainty will come to a close tonight. She thanked Mr. Leblanc for bringing forth an
agreement that is better than any other they have received. Mr. Leblanc and his organization are
determined to make this venture is a success and Vice Mayor Knaack believes it will be. She
thanked the NHL for their support of this agreement. The Council wants nothing more than to
see the Coyotes and Westgate thrive.
Councilmember Hugh asked if Council was going to vote on the amendments first. Mr.
DiPiazza said the vote is all one motion made, but a roll call vote must be taken on the ordinance
and a separate roll call vote on the resolution. Councilmember Hugh asked if there was a vote
on the amendments. Mr. DiPiazza said it was part of the motion that was made.
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Mayor Weiers spoke first about the history of the Jamison deal and the deal pending before the
Council now. He said he had conversations with the NHL and specifically talked about the five
year out clause. It didn't make sense for either party to get stuck in a bad situation. He asked
why wouldn't the city have the opportunity to negotiate a better deal when they are taking all the
risk. Mayor Weiers said the discussion was they were going to move forward with guarantees.
He said the city is being asked to take a chance in good faith and hope that everything works out.
He also said he is uncomfortable that the city is being asked to take all the risk. He said it is a
much better deal that it was before, but it can always be better. The best thing for Westgate
would be to keep the Coyotes in the city. He said they are trying to make the best decision for
the citizens. He said everyone on the Council is trying to do the right thing. His biggest
concern is if things don't work out,the city does not have a way out of the deal. He talked about
the high sales tax for the city and said the recent tax increase did not fix the problem. He said in
another year or two, the Council would probably be looking at another sales tax hike. Regardless
of whether or not the deal goes through, he said he would do everything in his power to help the
city.
ORDINANCE NO. 2855 NEW SERIES, WAS READ BY NUMBER AND TITLE ONLY,
IT BEING, AN ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GLENDALE,
MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF THE LEASEHOLD INTEREST WITHIN THE
PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND ARENA LEASE AGREEMENT
WITH ICEARIZONA MANAGER CO.,LLC,AND ICEARIZONA HOCKEY CO.,LLC.
It was moved by Councilmember Sherwood, and seconded by Councilmember Martinez, to
approve Ordinance No. 2855 New Series. Motion carried on a roll call vote, with the
following Councilmembers voting "aye": Chavira, Knaack, Martinez, and Sherwood.
Members voting"nay": Alvarez,Hugh and Weiers. The motion carried.
RESOLUTIONS
3. PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND ARENA LEASE AGREEMENT
AND NONCOMPETITION AND NON-RELOCATION AGREEMENT WITH
ICEARIZONA MANAGER CO., LLC AND ICEARIZONA HOCKEY CO., LLC
This is a request for City Council to vote to adopt a resolution authorizing the entering into of a
Professional Management Services and Arena Lease Agreement and a Noncompetition and Non-
Relocation Agreement with IceArizona Manager Co., LLC and IceArizona Hockey Co., LLC for
the use of the city-owned Jobing.com Arena by the Phoenix Coyotes.
RESOLUTION NO. 4703 NEW SERIES WAS READ BY NUMBER AND TITLE ONLY,
IT BEING, A RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GLENDALE,
MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF THE FOLLOWING TWO AGREEMENTS: (1)
PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND ARENA LEASE AGREEMENT
WITH ICEARIZONA MANAGER CO., LLC AND ICEARIZONA HOCKEY CO., LLC;
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AND (2) NON-RELOCATION AGREEMENT WITH ICEARIZONA MANAGER CO.,
LLC AND ICEARIZONA HOCKEY CO.,LLC.
It was moved by Councilmember Sherwood, and seconded by Councilmember Martinez, to
pass, adopt and approve Resolution No. 4703 New Series. The motion carried
unanimously.
4. LAMAR OUTDOOR LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR 7691 NORTH 99TH AVENUE
This item was administratively pulled from the agenda.
5. LAMAR OUTDOOR LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR 9802 WEST BETHANY HOME
ROAD
This item was administratively pulled from the agenda.
NEW BUSINESS
6. COUNCIL APPOINTMENT OF CITY MANAGER
This is a request for the City Council to appoint a city manager. The Mayor will accept a motion
or motions, call for a second, and conduct a vote of the Council that shall, by virtue of assent of a
majority, appoint a city manager and authorize Bob Murray & Associates along with the Human
Resources Department to negotiate and execute a contract for employment.
Councilmember Alvarez said she was not part of the interview process for Ms. Fischer. She said
when Councilmember Sherwood interviewed Ms. Fischer and he did not give equal opportunity
to the other applicants, so she did not want to participate. She asked if she should abstain from
the vote. Mayor Weiers said it was her call on what she wanted to do. Councilmember Alvarez
said she would abstain.
Councilmember Martinez asked if Councilmember Alvarez abstained did it automatically
counted as a yes vote. Mayor Weiers said it did not count as a yes vote. Councilmember
Martinez said he didn't think a Councilmember could abstain from a vote unless there was a
conflict. Mr. DiPiazza said a Councilmember has a prerogative to abstain. Mayor Weiers said in
the State Legislature, in order to abstain, you must have a valid reason, but the city does not do
that. Mayor Weiers said it did not count as a yes vote. Mr. DiPiazza said a Councilmember has
the prerogative to abstain.
Mr. Arthur Thruston, a Cactus district resident, discussed comments made by Councilmember
Chavira that Ms. Fischer and Mr. Leblanc would do everything they could to fix the city. He
said the Councilmembers and the Mayor should do what is best for the city. He recommended
the Council look to people from Arizona to fill future positions.
Vice Mayor Knaack said she got a message from an attorney who said that Councilmember
Martinez was correct, when you abstain, it is a yes vote. She said Council needed to make sure
about Councilmember Alvarez's vote. Discussion was held whether a vote had even been held
on the motion. Mr. DiPiazza said Councilmember Alvarez has the prerogative to abstain and it
would not be counted as a yes vote. Vice Mayor Knaack wanted to make sure the vote was done
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properly. Vice Mayor Knaack said she received information that if Councilmember Alvarez
abstained, it counted as a yes vote. Discussion was held about this with Mr. DiPiazza.
Mayor Weiers read a brief statement from Ms. Fischer.
It was moved by Vice Mayor Knaack, and seconded by Councilmember Sherwood, to
appoint Brenda Fischer as city manager and authorize Bob Murray & Associates along
with the Human Resources Department to negotiate and execute a contract for
employment. The motion carried with Alvarez voting Nay.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Mr. Ken Jones, an Ocotillo district resident, spoke about the city closing fire stations to pay for
the Coyotes. He said he would pick up referendum forms tomorrow.
Mr. Arthur Thruston, a Cactus district resident, asked why the Coyotes fans don't want to hear
anyone who has a differing opinion. He also said the city should not have spent money fighting
the casino. He said the citizens of Glendale should count.
COUNCIL COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
Councilmember Sherwood wished everyone a safe summer. He invited everyone out to the
Westgate 4th of July celebration. He thanked all the Coyotes fans for showing up.
Councilmember Martinez thanked the staff for the good job they did regarding the Coyotes issue.
He said the Councilmembers voted for what they thought was best for the city in the long run.
Councilmember Hugh congratulated the new City Manager, and thanked the attorneys and all
others who were involved in the Coyotes deal. He welcomed everyone to the 4th of July
celebration.
Councilmember Chavira thanked the staff for their hard work and for the fans that showed up.
Vice Mayor Knaack thanked everyone for coming out this evening and showing their support.
She wished everyone a happy 4th of July.
Mayor Weiers asked Mr. Leblanc not to let this agreement fail. He asked the Council to get over
the rifts caused by this issue and to move forward doing the best they can for the city. He
thanked Mr. Teetsel for the 4th of July celebration.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:16 p.m.
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Pamela Hanna- City Clerk
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