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AVIATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
GLENDALE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT
6801 N. GLEN HARBOR BLVD.
GLENDALE AVIATION CONFERENCE ROOM
GLENDALE, AZ 85307
OCTOBER 14,2009
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioner Chairman Carl Dietzman(Chair)
Commission Vice Chairman Bill Scott(Vice Chair)
Commissioner Ron Cohoe
Commissioner Carl Duggins
Commissioner Robert Irons
Commissioner Bill Kelly
Commissioner Bill Scott
Absent: Commissioner Marcio Moreno
Attendees: Airport Administrator Judy Skeen
Deputy City Manager Cathy Gorham
Airport Service Worker II Jim Gum
Valley Aviation Services Clare Pryke
Citizen Paul Alexander
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vice Chair Scott made a motion to accept the minutes without any changes for the
September 9, 2009 meeting. Commissioner Kelly made the second. The motion
passed 6 - 0.
IV. BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR
None.
V. AIRPORT BUSINESS
1. Ordinance No 1741, New Series, Article III. Aviation Advisory Commission.
Vice Chair Scott made a motion to bring to the table the discussion of Ordinance
1741. Commission Cohoe made the second. The motion passed 6—0.
Chair Dietzman explained the item to be a discussion of the bylaws with a
recommendation for changes or additions.
Vice Chair Scott noted the differences between the bylaws draft the Commission
members received and the bylaws the Chair received. He proposed that the date
of the meeting be kept as the 2"d Wednesday of the month (as in the Chair copy)
instead of the 4`h Wednesday of the month (as in the Commission copy). The
second recommendation was made that the Vice Chair be appointed by the City
Council instead of the Commission.
Commissioner Cohoe agreed, including that the Chair also be appointed by the
City Council instead of the Commission.
Vice Chair Scott went on to suggest that in the formation of sub-committees, any
Commission member wanting to be on a sub-committee could join without being
appointed by the Commission. However, a clause should be included
disallowing persons to join after the sub-committee has already begun meeting,
unless the person joining is replacing an existing sub-committee member.
Commissioner Cohoe stated that the wording should be changed to state that
Commission members "may serve" on the sub-committee instead of "may be
appointed" to a sub-committee.
Ms. Gorham inquired if the committee was keeping the requirement of a formal
vote by the Commission to form a sub-committee. Chair Dietzman replied in the
positive.
Commissioner Kelly asked if there was a problem with too many people wanting
to join a sub-committee. Ms Gorham replied that only three Commission
members could join any one sub-committee.
Chair Dietzman inquired if the Commission would use Robert's Rules of Order.
Vice Chair Scott and Commissioner Irons both agreed that Robert's Rules of
Order would serve the Commission's purpose quite well. Vice Chair Scott added
that the City recommends its Boards use Robert's Rules as they provide structure
with some flexibility.
Commissioner Cohoe inquired if the phrase "Rules and Regulations" be changed
to "Bylaws" in the Bylaws. Vice Chair Scott agreed. Ms. Skeen said that the
changes would be made and then the new Bylaws would be sent out before the
next meeting for review. In December, the changes to the Bylaws could be
formally adopted.
The acceptance of the changes to the Bylaws as suggested in Ordinance No 1741,
New Series,Article III will be tabled until the next meeting.
2. Airport Rules And Regulations Ad Hoc Committee
Commissioner Cohoe made a motion to bring to the table the discussion of the
Airport Rules and Regulations. Commission Kelly made the second. The motion
passed 6—0.
Vice Chair Scott had suggested this be tabled at the previous meeting so that
absent Commission members would have the opportunity to state whether they
wanted to join. Commissioner Cohoe asked if any Commission members wanted
to join the sub-committee. Commissioner Irons wanted to join the sub-
committee. Commissioner Kelly, Chair Dietzman, and Vice Chair Scott were
interested but had scheduling conflicts.
Commissioner Cohoe gave a brief synopsis of Article III, which was discussed
during the Rules and Regulations sub-committee meeting. Commissioner Cohoe
explained that Article II would be reviewed next and would require two meetings
to discuss. Commissioner Cohoe suggested adding to the agenda a discussion of
Article II.
Commissioner Kelly reminded the Commissioners that there was not a meeting
scheduled for November due to the holiday. Vice Chair Scott recommended
emailing out the summary of the meeting and the Commissioners could
individually send comments via email to Commissioner Cohoe for discussion in
the subsequent meeting. Ms. Gorham reminded the Commission that replying to
all is a violation of open meeting laws so to be sure not to mass email one another
about the Rules and Regulations sub-committee. Commissioner Cohoe agreed to
email each Commissioner individually.
3. Aviation Advisory Commission Sub-Committees.
Vice Chair Scott made a motion to bring to the table the discussion of the
formation of sub-committees. Commissioner Cohoe made the second. The
motion passed 6 - 0.
Vice Chair Scott made a motion to remove from the agenda the discussion of the
formation of sub-committees since it was previously discussed. Commissioner
Cohoe made the second. The motion passed 6 - 0.
4. Draft Hangar Land Lease Agreement
Commissioner Cohoe made a motion to bring to the table the discussion of the
Hangar Land Lease. Commissioner Duggins made the second. The motion
passed 6—0.
Commissioner Cohoe stated that in paragraph 3B the wording should be changed
from "the lease shall raise" to 'The lease may raise". Ms. Skeen indicated that the
rent would increase, therefore, "shall" is the proper wording.
Commissioner Cohoe explained that in paragraph 3C, it states that the lessee is to
pay 1/12 of the rent due on the first of the month. Commissioner Cohoe inquired
if all lessees were all on a month-to-month contract. Ms Skeen indicated that
each lessee is billed monthly. Commissioner Cohoe asked if they could pay more
than the 1/12. Ms. Skeen explained that lessees can pay monthly, quarterly, semi-
annually or annually based on their needs. However, lessees can pay no less than
monthly which is the reason for the wording. Vice Chair Scott indicated that the
agreement has no provisions against paying more at one time.
Commissioner Cohoe noted that paragraph 4 states that the lessee has to pay
utilities. Commissioner Cohoe asked who was responsible for hooking up the
utilities. Ms. Skeen replied that the lessee takes care of it in development.
Commissioner Cohoe inquired as to the ramifications of the lessees not paying the
utilities and if the utilities could be shut off for non-payment. Ms Skeen replied
that the utility companies handle those issues.
Commissioner Cohoe went on to discuss paragraph 5C regarding improvements
to hangars being done in a "good, workman-like manner". Commissioner Cohoe
stated that term was ambiguous and subjective to each party. Vice Chair Scott
indicated that it should be done by a professional person in a manner consistent
with what a trade contractor would do. Vice Chair Scott added that although the
workers do not have to be licensed, bonded, or insured, the workers need to
perform up to the city codes and ordinances. Commissioner Cohoe felt it was too
subjective and wondered if the agreement should include some type of approval
by the city. Chair Dietzman noted that commercial properties in Glendale must
be worked on by contractors licensed in the city of Glendale and all work must
meet codes, standards, and ordinances. Vice Chair Scott supported the statement
adding that permits and inspections are required as well. Which, Chair Dietzman
pointed out, brings the work up to city code. The Commission concurred that the
wording was fine as it is.
Commissioner Cohoe described in paragraph 7, page 6, paragraph C, sub
paragraph 2, the planes were to reduce vibration to eliminate damage to the
buildings. He inquired about which vibrations these were, Ms Skeen explained
that when a plane has engine noise and run up it may cause vibrations, which
when it is too close to a building can be disruptive.
Commissioner Cohoe pointed out that in paragraph 14, it is not noted as to who
enforces the insurance limits. Ms. Skeen stated that certificates of insurance are
required to be held, and are subsequently updated by the airport working with risk
management to ensure the limits held are acceptable. Ms. Skeen explained that
each certificate has a start and end date and updates are called for as
certificatesexpire.
Chair Dietzman inquired about the provisions for safety inspections. Ms. Skeen
replied that the airport performs annual safety inspections with the Fire
Department at the beginning of the calendar year. The airport works with the
tenants to schedule in blocks since many tenants are not always on site.
Commissioner Cohoe made a motion to accept the Hangar Land Lease Agreement
without changes. Vice Chair Scott made the second. The motion passed 6—0.
VL STAFF REPORTS/UPDATE
1. Ms. Skeen indicated that Shari Smith retired from the airport on September 25,
2009. The office is holding a closed recruitment within the city to fill the position.
Candidates are being interviewed Monday and a replacement should be hired soon.
2. Ms. Skeen stated that the control tower is in the construction phase. Construction
has slowed for the moment, but it is coming along nicely. The control tower
should be completed within 60 days. At that time, the Commission will take a
tour of the tower. Vice Chair Scott wondered if it would be completed around the
first of the year. Ms. Skeen replied that there were a few issues with FAA wind
sensor approval and delivery of some equipment that delayed the original date.
However, Ms. Skeen did feel that at the beginning of the year the tower would be
complete.
3. Ms. Skeen explained that the cracks on the north end of the on-ramp and taxiway
would be sealed. The project should start in the next few weeks and would be
performed by an outside contractor for $4,900. Ms. Skeen announced that the
grant with Maricopa County for weed and dust control will start in the next few
weeks.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
Vice Chair Scott felt that a sub-committee should be formed to discuss what should be
added to future agenda items in order to avoid cancelled meetings. Ms. Gorham felt
that it was unnecessary as any items the Commission would like on an agenda could
be identified during the current meetings under Commission Comments and
Suggestions. The item would then be placed on the next month's evening meeting
agenda. Ms. Gorham also stated that other Commissions do not meet monthly if there
is no business or agenda items. The Arts Commission is considering meeting
quarterly and the Library Advisory Board vacated all meetings during the summer.
Chair Dietzman stated that one agenda item for the next few months will be the Rules and
Regulations Committee. Commissioner Cohoe suggested inviting the Pilots Association
to a meeting to discuss their ideas and concerns quarterly. Ms. Gorham stated that this
would be added to the December meeting agenda. Commissioner Cohoe also suggested
having a discussion of ideas to attract additional commercial business and future
business, to bring in new revenue for the airport.
Ms. Gorham suggested inviting West-Mec to present on the new vocational school
planned to teach students about aviation related job opportunities and skills planned
for property adjacent to the airport. This will be added to the agenda for the January
meeting. Chair Dietzman suggested visiting the Scottsdale Airport and Deer Valley
Airport as a retreat to get in touch with their Aviation Advisory Commissioners.
Commissioner Cohoe stated that the Conimission should invite the other regional
Airport managers to a meeting to voice their input to the Commission during a
meeting. Vice Chair Scott suggested a to visit other airports be added to the February
meeting agenda.
VIII. NEXT MEETING TIME
The next meeting will be held at 7:00 p.m., Wednesday, December 9, 2009. It will be
held in the Glendale Municipal Airport, 6801 N. Glen Harbor Blvd Suite 201,
Glendale, AZ. The November 11, 2009 meeting is cancelled due to Veterans Day.
IX. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
None
X. ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chair Scott made a motion to adjourn at 8:20 p.m. Commissioner Kelly made
the second. The motion passed 6—0.
The Aviation Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes of October 14, 2009 were
5),
oved at the Commission Meeting of December 9, 2009.
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