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CITY OF GLENDALE,MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
GLENDALE CITY HALL
5850 WEST GLENDALE AVENUE
CONFERENCE ROOM 2A
THURSDAY,JUNE 25, 2009
7:00 P.M.
Vice Chairperson Becky Shady called the meeting to order at approximately 7:00 p.m. and
conducted roll call with the following results:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Becky Shady,Vice Chairperson
Jim Grose
Dan Leimeter
Mary Lou McNeill
Linda Sue Trumble
MEMBERS ABSENT: Charles"Bud"Zomok, Chairperson
Ruth Byrne
CITY STAFF: Ron Short,FAICP, Deputy Director for Long Range Planning
Karen Flores, AICP,Planner
Lisa Hunt, Senior Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Vice Chairperson Shady called for approval of the May 28, 2009 minutes.
Commissioner Mary Lou McNeill MADE a MOTION to APPROVE the minutes from the
Historic Preservation Commission meeting held on May 28, 2009. Commissioner Dan
Leimeter SECONDED the MOTION. The motion passed unanimously.
BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR:
Vice Chairperson Shady called for business from the floor. There was none.
WITHDRAWALS AND CONTINUANCES:
Vice Chairperson Shady called for withdrawals and continuances. There were none.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Vice Chairperson Shady called for public hearing items. There were none.
OTHER BUSINESS:
Vice Chairperson Shady called for other business.
1. STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE:
James Garrison, Arizona's State Historic Preservation Officer, will address the
evolution of architecture in the state from a stylistic point of view. Beginning with
pre-historic sites, Mr. Garrison will focus on the key examples of architecture from
San Xavier Mission near Tucson to Will Bruder's Phoenix Public Library. Statewide
trends will also be tied back to architectural examples from Glendale.
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Mr. James Garrison, Arizona's State Historic Preservation Officer, gave an extensive presentation
with regard to the history behind Arizona's architecture from stylistic point of view, which included
an 80-slide presentation. Additionally, he provided the Commission with a list of the Style
Classifications, chronologically listed,beginning with the year 1750.
Mr. Garrison recommended the following books: American Architecture Since 1780:A Guide to the
Styles written by Marcus Whiffen. Marcus was the primary architectural historian at the College of
Architecture at ASU. He said that this was a primary source used in National Register nominations.
He went on to discuss another book, Field Guide to American Houses written by Virginia and Lee
McAllester in 1984. This became the source on residential architectural styles for the whole United
States. Virginia and Lee are from Dallas, Texas; so, the book tended to be Texas-centric. He said
that it was hard to write a comprehensive style manual for the whole United States and this one is
nice because it has a lot of architectural drawings. He created and shared with the Commission a list
of stylistic classifications for the west based on this book.
He continued with a third book, Architecture in Los Angeles written by David Gebhard, an
architectural historian from Santa Barbara, and Robert Winter, who had written a book about
bungalows. Mr. Garrison liked the 1985 edition better than the current one because it had a glossary
of stylistic classifications.
Mr. Garrison stated that there's an area of architecture that's more type driven, based on the floor
plan of the type of building as opposed to the style. Style is usually related to construction
technology and materials.
Mr. Garrison explained the meaning of the word "architecture": "archi" meaning the head or the
chief; "tect"meaning worker; and "ure", the result. Therefore, the word itself means, "The result of
the chief or head worker." In the middle-ages, before the renaissance, the architect was the chief
worker on the site. There weren't really plans to follow, except perhaps a few sketches of things;
but, during the renaissance, plans were developed and the desire to share ideas about architecture led
to the first round of architects.
He continued by explaining the four basic types of architecture: 1) Folk Vernacular refers to
indigenous architecture that responds to local conditions and uses local materials; 2) Mass
Vernacular refers to a more widespread adoption of vernacular characteristics; 3) Pattern Book
(regulated)refers to"patterns"provided in books which was prevalent in the United States in the 18th
and 19th centuries; and 4) Designed (before construction) which entails the more unique custom
designs.
Here are some examples of such. Mr. Garrison stated that if there's a stone here and you build
something out of it to protect yourself from the weather... that would be indigenous. He said that the
Hopi villages would be indigenous. Mass Vernacular is when an idea, such as a little red school
house or log cabin, becomes widespread. A log cabin really isn't indigenous; and, like the little red
school house, you don't need a set of plans for construction because everybody (carpenters, brick
masons, etc.)knew what they looked like. That's called Mass Vernacular architecture.
And, then, you have Pattern Book, or regulated, which was derived from an analysis of schools. He
asked the Commission if they were in classrooms with all the windows on one side of the room and
stated that it might be thought that the architect was organizing the rooms (blackboard space, etc.).
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However, around 1900, there was a regulation that all the windows in a classroom had to be on one
side because it was believed cross lighting would cause an eye disease. Of course that was untrue;
but, until the no-window classroom in the 1960's, all the windows were on one side. Surveys of
some Nevada schools in the 1980's with 10' by 12' one-room schools showed two, double-hung
windows on one side,reflecting this regulation.
He continued by discussing Designed where an architect thinks through the whole design before it's
constructed. Most critics, architectural historians or the general public want to pigeon-hole
architecture into design architecture. This leaves out the other three options for consideration. For
example, a chief worker could build an indigenous building and it should be categorized as such,
rather than having high-style architecture be your mandate. He said that he thought that the intention
of the historic preservation office was to find all of these and not just the high-style architecture.
How do we evaluate architecture and what are the criteria of evaluation? The Elements of
Architecture written by Sir Henry Wooton in 1624 establish firmness, commodity and delight. We
haven't come up with a better scheme since then. He found that elder hostel people rated
architecture against these three things. In a gothic cathedral there's a sense of structure and stability
that's personified in the architectural firmness.
Commodity entails two areas. One is spending money wisely and the other is organizing the spaces
in an efficient way (minimizing the amount of hallways, unusable space, or support spaces) to
proficiently support the function. And, of course, delight. The trick of architecture is to bring delight
into the equation. In Notre Dame, for example, the stained glass windows would be part of the
delight of architecture.
Mr. Garrison addressed the period of 1853 (following the Gadsden Purchase of which Arizona was a
part)to the present.
The Adobe tradition shown in row houses in Tucson represents mass vernacular. The row house
shows window-door, window-door style coming to Arizona from Mexico—the Sonoran tradition
pushing into the state. A similar tradition is the Mormon's pushing in to Utah with their tradition in
Adobe—they make adobe blocks about the size of a common brick (not normal adobe sizes). A bit
of influence comes from California but it's primarily from Sonoran that the Adobe tradition was
brought into the state.
Mr. Garrison provided a pictorial tour of numerous buildings in Arizona, explaining the evolution
through adobe structures to the Victorian influence,Neo-Classical, Spanish Revival, Craftsman, Post
World War II styles, and the more contemporary styles. He explained the dynamics of the transition
and integration among the various styles and their relationship to the Arizona climate and cultural
influences. He noted the uniqueness of the Burton Barr Library which is designed specifically for
and works extremely well for the Arizona desert climate and is a building that would not work in any
other setting.
STAFF REPORT:
Ms. Karen Flores, AICP, Planner, announced to the Commission the plans for distribution of 118
bronze plaques in the Catlin Court expansion area at meetings to be held on July 20th and 27th and
August 17m and 24th with Councilmember David Goulet attending. With regard to ranch house
historic districts, the Thunderbird/McDonald Addition and Northfield were being worked on. At a
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meeting with residents from Thunderbird last night, about 30 people attended. Councilmember
Yvonne Knaack, Commissioner Mary Lou McNeill, Mr. Bob Graham, and Mr. Ron Short, FAICP,
Deputy Director of Long Range Planning also attended. The meeting catalyzed the citizens to take
some steps to becoming a neighborhood association. Next Monday will be a meeting with the
Northfield residents.
CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT (CLG)GRANT FUNDS—SANDS ESTATES:
Ms. Flores said that they would be moving forward with the nomination for Sands Estates using
CLG funds.
POSSIBLE SPEAKERS FOR MEETINGS OF THE HPC IN THE FALL:
Ms. Flores continued by discussing fall speakers and indicated that possibly Gam Emery, Deputy
City Attorney, would discuss Open Meeting Law in September. Other possibilities may be the
Glendale Tourism office,Arizona State Library and Sarival Farms.
STATUS OF REHABILITATION PLANS FOR THE MORCOMB PROPERTY:
Mr. Short provided an update regarding restoration of the Morcomb property.
VACATION OF UPCOMING HPC MEETINGS:
Ms. Flores recommended that the meetings for the month of July 23 and August 27, 2009 be vacated.
Vice Chairperson Shady called for a motion.
Commissioner Jim Grose MADE a MOTION to VACATE the July 23 and August 27, 2009
meetings. Commissioner Leimeter SECONDED the MOTION. The motion carried
unanimously.
COMMISSION COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS:
The Commission stated that they had a wonderful time at the conference.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at approximately 8:45 p.m.
NEXT MEETING:
The next Hiis ric Preservation Commission meeting will be held September 24, 2009.
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