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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Minutes - City Council - Meeting Date: 7/6/2004 * PLEASE NOTE: Since the Glendale City Council does not take formal action at the Workshops; Workshop minutes are not approved by the City Council. MINUTES CITY OF GLENDALE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP July 6, 2004 1:30 p.m. PRESENT: Mayor Elaine M. Scruggs, Vice Mayor Thomas R. Eggleston, and Councilmembers Joyce V. Clark, Steven E. Frate, David M. Goulet, and H. Phillip Lieberman. ABSENT: Councilmember Manuel D. Martinez ALSO PRESENT: Ed Beasley, City Manager; Pam Kavanaugh, Assistant City Manager; Jon Paladini, Interim City Attorney; and Pamela Hanna, City Clerk Mr. Beasley read a statement concerning fires within the community that could effect the transmission of power. He said APS has informed the city that, as a result of their efforts to conserve power, the city hall building could loose power later this afternoon. Mr. Paladini said, should the power outage occur, he recommends the executive and public sessions be adjourned and rescheduled to a future date. He explained the Council could agree to either reconvene at a specific date and time or choose to reconvene at a future date and post a notice of the meeting 24 hours prior to reconvening. 1. NEW RIVER/AGUA FRIA UNDERGROUND STORAGE PROJECT CITY STAFF PRESENTING THIS ITEM: Mr. Ken Reedy, Deputy City Manager and Mr. Stephen Rot, Environmental Program Manager This is a request for the City Council to review and consider Glendale's participation in the New River/Agua Fria Underground Storage Project (NAUSP). Participation in the NAUSP will allow the city to meet the statutory requirements that, by 2025, every gallon of groundwater pumped must be either naturally or artificially replenished. The NAUSP is a regional water recharge facility that will be owned by the participants, which include the Salt River Project, and the cities of Avondale, Chandler, and Glendale, and operated by the Salt River Project. Effluent is a significant part of the city's plan to ensure that it has sustainable water resources to meet current and future water demand. The city's participation in the NAUSP facility will allow Glendale to artificially recharge and store the additional effluent that will be generated from the expansion of the West Area Water Reclamation Facility. 1 The expansion of Glendale's West Area Water Reclamation Facility from a capacity of 4.3 million gallons per day (4,817 acre-feet per year) to 10 million gallons per day (11,201 acre-feet per year) has necessitated the city to secure additional water storage capacity. The NAUSP will operate under an intergovernmental agreement among the partners. The NAUSP was originally projected to have an ultimate annual storage capacity of 100,000 acre-feet per year, in which Glendale considered a 20 percent (20,000 acre- feet of annual storage capacity) ownership of the facility. The NAUSP is currently projected to have an ultimate annual storage capacity of 75,000 acre-feet. Project construction will be completed in two phases. The first phase of construction is expected to be complete by mid-year 2005. The Utilities Department and Black & Veatch Consultants presented the City's Comprehensive Water System Master Plan to the Council at four workshop sessions during October through December 2003. The plan contained a recommendation to increase the city's recharge capacity to accommodate the additional effluent flow from the expanded West Area Water Reclamation Facility. The NAUSP has been in the Glendale Capital Improvement Plan since 2002. Glendale's participation in the NAUSP will allow the city to recharge 100 percent of the effluent generated at the West Area Water Reclamation Facility. The water storage credits earned as a result of recharging the effluent can be used to meet the city's statutory requirements by offsetting Glendale's groundwater use. Maximizing the use of Glendale's available effluent supplies through recharge activities will assist the city in maintaining its designation of assured water supply, which is necessary for continued growth and development within the city's water service area. Glendale has a capital improvement budget for this project of $3,737,247. over fiscal years 2004-2005 and 2005-2006. These funds are available in the New River/Agua Fria Underground Storage Project C.I.P Account No. 83-9280. Federal Grant funds were awarded for the project by the Department of Interior. Glendale's share of the available grant funds, based upon twenty percent ownership in the project, is $40,000. The projected capital cost to Glendale, based upon twenty percent ownership in the project and subtracting Glendale's share of the available Federal grant funding, is 2 $2,699,576. Based upon the currently projected storage capacity, this will provide Glendale with 15,000 acre-feet of recharge capacity per year. The projected first year operating cost to Glendale, based upon twenty percent ownership in the project, is $66,000. These annual operating costs will be covered by the Utilities Fund 50. Staff evaluated the option of expanding the city's existing West Area Aquifer recharge facility, but this was determined to be limited due to recharge impacts associated with the previously permitted NAUSP, and on the immediately adjacent Glendale Landfill and gravel mining operations. Staff considered building and operating a new groundwater recharge facility solely owned by the City, but it was determined to be a more expensive option. Staff is seeking direction from the Council on the whether City Council wants the city to become a partner in the NAUSP facility. Councilmember Goulet asked how a city's percentage of use affects their cost. Mr. Reedy explained 40 percent of the facility would be owned by SRP, 20 percent by Glendale, 30 percent by Chandler and 10 percent by Avondale. He said the water a community withdraws would be in their community and the goal is to recharge to the aquifer. He said the Department of Water Resources allows cities to reclaim water through any of its existing wells so the demand on the system would be based on how much was contributed to the facility for recharge. Councilmember Goulet asked if a community has to be able to put in an amount equal to the percentage they use. Mr. Reedy said a community could choose not to fully utilize the facility, at which point any remaining water would be made available to other communities through a lease agreement. Councilmember Clark asked if the facility would have any impact on the city's landfill or gravel mining operation. Mr. Reedy said the possibility exists since underground water in the area would probably flow northwest toward the landfill. He said their goal is to keep the water under the bottom of the landfill. Councilmember Clark asked why the current facility cannot be expanded if the NAUSP is expected to have an impact on the landfill and gravel mining operation as well. She also asked about the costs involved in the current facility and the NAUSP facility. Mr. Reedy explained there are a variety of . costs involved in developing this type of project, including engineering costs associated with permitting the project, extensive testing and modeling, and technical reports. He said, in the case of the NAUSP, those costs will be shared by four entities. He stated the current facility cost approximately $5 million to construct and provides about 5 million gallons per day storage. He said for a cost to Glendale of approximately $3 million, the NAUSP facility would provide 15 to 17 million gallons per day storage. Councilmember Clark said she is concerned about both facilities' close proximity to the city's landfill and gravel mining operations. Mr. Reedy assured Councilmember Clark staff would monitor the situation and verify current operations of the landfill and mining operation are not negatively impacted. Councilmember Clark asked if Chandler would physically store water at the new facility. Mr. Reedy explained Chandler has SRP water delivered to them through the Granite Reef aqueduct and canal systems and, by being a partner, the water at the new facility 3 can be delivered to Chandler using the same means. Councilmember Clark asked about the time constraint referenced in the staff report. Mr. Reedy explained they have been working on the project with SRP for five years, stating they now have to proceed so they can get on with the business of storing water. He stated they have been given the option by the permitting agency to continue using the city's facility for about one year. Councilmember Clark asked how they get across the Agua Fria. Mr. Reedy explained a pipe to deliver sewer flow from 99th Avenue and Camelback to the facility and a 24-inch pipe under the river to deliver treated effluent back across the river was constructed several years ago. In response to Councilmember Lieberman's questions, Mr. Reedy pointed out the location of the reclamation facility and pipe under the Agua Fria River. He explained the pipe under the river would be connected as part of the expansion project currently underway. Councilmember Clark asked when the water treatment plant would have a 10 million gallon capacity. Mr. Reedy said approximately February or March 2005. Councilmember Goulet asked if there is a likelihood that the land for Phase II will be sold and that Phase II will not be able to be developed. Mr. Reedy said a provision in the intergovernmental agreement with SRP allows Phase Ito ultimately be unused and reclaimed, allowing the property to be sold. He stated a number of other properties down stream will have very little value to the property owner and could become future sites for reclamation recharge facilities. Councilmember Lieberman asked if a timeline has been identified for meeting the statutory requirements by 2025. Mr. Reedy said their goal is to do as much recharge as possible over the next few years to build up credits. Councilmember Lieberman asked what other cities that are not part of the compact are going to do. Mr. Reedy said there are a number of other solutions and projects currently underway. Mr. Rot noted the City of Phoenix is looking at the Granite Reef Underground Storage Project as having sufficient capacity to meet their needs. Councilmember Lieberman asked if the previous compact between Glendale and an Indian tribe is still in existence. Mr. Reedy stated they are awaiting answers to a number of legal issues. Councilmember Lieberman clarified the compact with the Indian tribe will in no way impact the NAUSP partnership. Councilmember Goulet asked if Glendale is the first city to consider the partnership. Mr. Reedy reported Avondale approved the project on June 21 and Chandler will soon have the issue on their agenda for approval as well. Councilmember Lieberman asked Mr. Reedy if he anticipates some of the compacts to merge together as 2025 draws closer. Mr. Reedy questioned whether legally the compacts could merge. He said, however, SRP has been a catalyst for bringing these types of projects together. Councilmember Frate asked why the facility's capacity had to be reduced. Mr. Reedy said the original site was larger. Councilmember Frate asked what the city intends to do with the $1 million cost savings over the budgeted amount. Mr. Reedy stated one of their goals is to acquire additional capacity if it becomes available. He said, should additional capacity not be available, the money will go back into the water fund and be used on other projects. 4 In response to Vice Mayor Eggleston's question, Mr. Reedy stated the Arrowhead Water Reclamation Facility has several wells used for recharge purposes. He said the NAUSP facility is slightly different, in that they flood the bottom of the basin and the water soaks into the ground very rapidly. He stated the well recharge project works better in an area where there is not a lot of available surface land. Vice Mayor Eggleston commented on other cities that end up with large ponds that attract ducks and other birds. Mr. Reedy said the NAUSP facility will have little to no surface water, noting the reduction in alfalfa will actually reduce the number of birds attracted to the area. Vice Mayor Eggleston asked why the water couldn't just be sent down the river. Mr. Reedy said, first of all, they do not have a discharge permit. He explained, however, even if they had a discharge permit, it would not necessarily benefit the groundwater. Mayor Scruggs asked if the operation and capital costs have been built into the rate analysis. Mr. Reedy responded yes. Councilmember Lieberman asked if Glendale owns the land. Mr. Reedy explained SRP purchased the land about one month ago. It as the consensus of the City Council to have staff proceed. 2. FOLLOW-UP REPORTS ON APRIL 6TH COUNCIL ITEMS OF SPECIAL INTEREST This is a request for City Council to review and provide direction regarding reports on the following items: A. Go Peds B. Noise Ordinance related to mobile vendors C. Mobile Vendors - Licensing D. Vehicular Cruising Ordinance E. Newspaper Stands Council "Items of Special Interest" are discussed quarterly in workshop according to a Council procedural guideline approved in the Fall of 2002. The memorandums submitted to the Council provide an initial assessment of topics identified during the April 6, 2004 Council workshop. The reports address issues related to the Council's priorities of enhancing the quality of life for Glendale residents and ensuring public safety. At the April 6, 2004 Council workshop, the following "items of special interest" were identified by the Mayor and Council to receive an initial assessment by staff related to costs associated with their study and implementation: o Go Peds — Councilmember Goulet o Noise Ordinance related to mobile vendors — Councilmember Goulet o Mobile Vendors — Licensing — Councilmembers Goulet and Lieberman o Vehicular Cruising Ordinance — Councilmember Goulet o Newspaper Stands — Councilmember Frate 5 Should the Council decide to pursue further action on any of these topics, various stakeholders, interested parties, and the public-at-large will be notified of policy changes and/or future opportunities to provide input. Each of the five memorandums includes an initial assessment and/or possible budget impacts and costs. The recommendation was to review and provide staff direction on each of the five items of special interest. A. Go Peds City Staff: Assistant Police Chief Andrew Kirkland and Lieutenant Matt Lt. Lively Councilmember Goulet asked if the ordinance would cover new types of vehicles that could come out in the future. Lt. Lively said the state legislature is currently exploring whether or not they should legislate the new mini-motorcycle vehicles. He stated the city's new ordinance is fairly strong in terms of the vehicles to which it applies, however, he is not certain new vehicles will fall under the regulation. Councilmember Goulet asked if other cities have changed ordinances that previously permitted go peds so that they are now outlawed. Lt. Lively said Tucson recently enacted an ordinance and Gilbert recently addressed this issue. He explained Tucson has put a ban on go peds, but he is not sure if the ban applies to the mini-motorcycles as well. Mayor Scruggs stated Gilbert basically copied Glendale's ordinance except they allow children to start riding at 13 years of age and a notarized statement from a child's parent is not required. She stated she was part of an extensive discussion on electric vehicles that children as young as three can drive, asking if the ordinance would cover those types of vehicles. Assistant Chief Kirkland responded no. Councilmember Frate asked what liability the city has if a person is killed on a go ped under the city's current ordinance. He commented, while the issue used to be the noise the motors generate, the new quiet motors cause their own problems because people are not aware they are approaching. He asked if miniature golf carts are regulated. Lt. Lively said golf carts are currently regulated by state statute. He pointed out golf carts as well as three and four wheel ATV's can be licensed if they meet certain requirements, making them lawful for operation on city. streets. He noted some of the mini-motorcycles, which are known as pocket bikes, could achieve speeds of up to 50 miles per hour. Councilmember Frate asked if the stores inform people that the mini- golf carts have to be licensed. Lt. Lively said one of the problems is that cities regulate go-peds and mini-vehicles differently. He clarified the mini-golf carts to which Councilmember Frate referred are actually mini-dune buggies, which are not regulated by the state and not permitted to operate on city roadways. Councilmember Lieberman pointed out the little girl that was recently hit while riding an electric skateboard was nine years old and not wearing a helmet. He questioned why 6 her parents would have allowed her to ride, stating it emphasizes the need to educate parents on the city's ordinance. He said many of the products do not have serial numbers and, therefore, cannot be registered. He expressed his opinion the ordinance is neither strict nor inclusive enough, stating it should include all types of vehicles. Councilmember Goulet said he has always opposed allowing motorized skateboards to be on the road, explaining regardless of how smart the child might be, who is riding the vehicle, they cannot compete with the traffic on city roads. He stated manufacturer's will always produce products that get around the city's ordinance, therefore, the city either has to decide to allow the vehicles and deal with the consequences, or make a very strong ordinance that clearly states the vehicles will not be allowed on the roads at any time, regardless of the age of the driver. He said parents are ultimately responsible for the decision to allow their children to drive the vehicles, but he believes the city will fail if it does not find a way to effectively inform parents so that the right decision can be made. Councilmember Lieberman stated the city informs people of numerous things and requires residents to adhere to certain guidelines and restrictions. He said there is no reason why the city's ordinance on this issue cannot be as strong as ordinances in all other aspects of the city. He said, unfortunately, the city cannot enforce its noise ordinance in terms of the vehicles, because the city does not own a decibel meter and its Lt.s have not be trained in using the decibel A-Scale or B-Scale. He stated they could merely encourage the child to run quieter, if possible. He said the city has to put out clear information explaining the city's rules. Vice Mayor Eggleston asked how the Police Department addresses complaints about noise from the vehicles. Lt. Lively admitted noise is the single greatest complaint the department receives about the vehicles. He said the current ordinance prohibits unnecessary or obnoxious noise, stating the difficulty comes when attempting to define what is, in fact, unnecessary or obnoxious. Vice Mayor Eggleston asked if the Police Department could do anything to address vehicles that have been modified to create even more noise. Lt. Lively said, because there are a number of manufacturers and designs, it is difficult to determine whether a vehicle has been modified from its original version. He said the judgment is basically left to the discretion of the Lt.. Vice Mayor Eggleston commented that, while motorcycles are often very loud but they do not travel around the block numerous times. Lt. Lively said to some extent motorcycles are regulated by state law; however, even those laws are becoming more difficult to enforce because it is hard to determine if a muffler is a stock muffler. Councilmember Frate asked if electric go peds are covered under the city's ordinance. Lt. Lively responded yes. Mayor Scruggs pointed out the ordinance makes reference to "motorized skateboards," stating, otherwise, it would refer to the little electric cars as well. 7 Councilmember Lieberman noted there are seven or more major custom cycle builders in Arizona, including one in Glendale, whose bikes are all noisy by nature. Mayor Scruggs asked if there is consensus for strengthening the city's existing ordinance or increasing enforcement. Councilmembers Goulet, Frate and Lieberman expressed their opinion the ordinance regarding motorized skateboards should be strengthened. Mayor Scruggs directed staff to work on strengthening the city's ordinance. Councilmember Lieberman asked that the scope of vehicles covered by the ordinance also be expanded. Councilmember Goulet suggested the ordinance also address cruising or driving in repetitive patterns. Mayor Scruggs pointed out the original intent of the noise aspect of the ordinance was to eliminate repetitive driving patterns. Mayor Scruggs asked if citizen input would be solicited before or after drafting of the ordinance. Assistant Chief Kirkland expressed his opinion it is important to solicit input prior to drafting the ordinance. Mayor Scruggs noted the kids she met with from several schools knew the city's ordinance on go peds. Lt. Lively said the city did several shows on the subject on the city's cable channel, as well as water bill mailings and articles in the Connection. Councilmember Frate stated the city also produced and distributed a video to all elementary schools. B. Noise Ordinance Related to Mobile Vendors City Staff: Mr. Andrew Kirkland, Assistant Police Chief and Lt. Matt Lt. Lively Councilmember Goulet explained he brought this issue forward as a result of complaints he received from residents. He said music and announcements from the vendors should be done at such a level that they can only be heard by those within a one-block proximity to the vendor. Councilmember Lieberman questioned how the city could enforce any noise ordinance without having a decibel meter. He stated the city's ordinance currently prohibits any noise that is not reasonable or proper, which is up to the discretion of the Lt. responding to a complaint. He suggested they first explore whether the city has an ordinance that covers mid-street vendors. Lt. Lively said the city's existing ordinances primarily refer to noise and prolonged parking in front of a house. Councilmember Clark said, while the city has an ordinance regarding noise, it is an impossible issue to address without clear definitions of what constitutes excessive noise. She suggested the issue be addressed in a manner similar to the city's barking dog ordinance, wherein three neighbors have to complain and show proof that a dog is making excessive or unreasonable noise. Assistant Chief Kirkland stated the 8 complaints are not typically about ice-cream vendors, but vendors who play their stereos extremely loud through the neighborhoods. Mayor Scruggs expressed her opinion the whole discussion is pitiful, stating she used to wait with great anticipation for the sound of the ice cream truck when she was a child. She stated she would not support doing anything to further regulate the noise from ice cream trucks. She said, with regard to vendors who play their stereos too loudly, she pointed out the city has not been successful in its past efforts to stop people from playing their stereos too loudly. Councilmember Goulet explained that, while the ice cream truck never used to be an issue, the cumulative total of all of the vendors who now travel through neighborhoods has created the problem. Councilmember Clark pointed out ice cream trucks used to ring a bell, while they now blare music to attract children. She said she agrees with Councilmember Goulet that, as people move in closer proximity to each other, they need to be more respectful of their neighbors. Mayor Scruggs asked if there is consensus to strengthen the ordinance. Councilmembers Goulet and Clark voiced their support, however, there was no consensus. Mobile Vendors — Licensing City Staff: Mr. Robert Drake, Revenue Administrator Councilmember Goulet said residents have raised concerns about the health and quality of the merchandise being sold by mobile vendors. He said, additionally, licensed vendors have made complaints about unlicensed vendors who sell products out of ice chests, shopping carts and bicycle racks. Councilmember Lieberman said he too is concerned about the cleanliness and licensing of mobile vendors. He stated each mobile unit is required to have a fully operational hand sink with hot and cold running water and be supplied with soap and a disposable hand towel. He said it is apparent that requirement is not met by many of the vendors. He asked if the city has the resources to police vendors to ensure they meet the requirements or if enforcement is the state's responsibility. Mr. Drake explained Maricopa County handles sanitary inspections and food handling certificates of all vendors. He said, prior to being licensed by the city, vendors are required to obtain a certificate for their cart or vehicle. He said the city further requires a certificate of insurance if operating in parks, a contract with a property owner if operating on private property, and a list of any employees. Councilmember Lieberman reiterated his concern about cleanliness, stating he does not believe all of the vendors have the ability to wash their hands. 9 Mayor Scruggs pointed out there are 40 double-sided pages of city and county laws and regulations a vendor has to meet to obtain a license. She questioned what more the city or county could do in terms of ensuring cleanliness. Mr. Drake said the problems arise from vendors who are not licensed. He stated police and code enforcement Lt.s are able to verify a vehicle or pushcart has the appropriate license, noting one city actually requires vendors to display a sticker indicating they are licensed for the year. Mayor Scruggs commented the county does a very good job in terms of health inspections. Councilmember Frate asked if the Police Department has enough Lt.s to adequately enforce licensing requirements. Mr. Drake said enforcement is a problem in all cities because the vendors are mobile. Councilmember Frate asked what citizens could do to help Code Enforcement or the Police Department. Mr. Drake said the Police Department would likely have to be contacted if a complaint was filed in order to get to the vendor before they moved to a different location. He said, in situations where a vendor has been spotted at a specific location on numerous occasions, an inspector would be stationed there to wait for the vendor to return. Councilmember Goulet said he has been asked why the city allows people who obviously do not have health clearances or permits to repeatedly come into its neighborhoods. He said the vendors who attend city sanctioned events and hold the necessary licenses are not the problem, explaining it is the unlicensed vendor who randomly shows up and is, therefore, unreachable if someone gets sick after purchasing their product. Mayor Scruggs suggested Assistant Chief Kirkland send Lt.s out to meet with the residents who have raised concerns about the mobile vendors, stating the complaints seem to come from specific areas. Assistant Chief Kirkland agreed one of their CAT teams could meet with the residents. Mayor Scruggs questioned what more the city could or would want to do. She asked if there is a consensus for staff to research additional licensing and cleanliness procedures. Councilmember Clark asked if vendors pay the city a fee. Mr. Drake responded yes. Councilmember Clark asked if Glendale issues a sticker that indicates they have paid the fee. Mr. Drake said they issue a business license, but no sticker. Councilmember Clark suggested a sticker would help identify unlicensed vendors and assist with enforcement. Mr. Drake confirmed the vendors have to renew their licenses annually. Councilmember Clark further suggested the stickers include a vendor specific number citizens can reference when filing a complaint. Councilmember Lieberman pointed out Mr. Drake has set forth the cost involved in issuing stickers. He asked if the amount collected in fees would defray the cost of issuing the stickers. Mr. Drake said the $80 peddler's license fee is used to cover 10 administrative costs involved in issuing the license, but should also be able to cover the cost of the stickers. Councilmember Lieberman said he strongly supports issuing stickers. It was the consensus of City Council to have staff proceed with a plan to issue stickers. C. Vehicular Cruising Ordinance City Staff: Mr. Andrew Kirkland, Assistant Police Chief and Lt. Matt Lt. Lively Councilmember Goulet explained he asked that the Cruising ordinance be updated to address issues that may come up in the future with regard to the arena and stadium. Councilmember Frate asked if cruising is a concern on Bell Road. Lt. Lively explained speed and impromptu races are of more concern on Bell Road than cruising. He said cruising typically occurs along entertainment corridors. He said the city could designate certain areas or specific times as "no cruising" areas or times. Councilmember Frate asked if cruising is a problem in the Arrowhead area. Lt. Lively said not at this time. Councilmember Lieberman stated he does not support a vehicular cruising ordinance. Councilmember Goulet said, while there may not be any problems right now, he supports establishing an ordinance to deal with possible problems in the future. Mayor Scruggs said, while she is generally opposed to adding more laws, she believes the ordinance is necessary. She commented on the impact cruising could have on residents who live near the sports arena and stadium, stating it could make residents fear leaving or unable to access their homes. She said, however, she does not want an ordinance that strictly addresses cruising in the area of the sports facilities. Vice Mayor Eggleston agreed. It was the consensus of City Council to have staff draft a Vehicular Cruising Ordinance. D. Newspaper Stands City Staff: Mr. Jon Paladini, Interim City Attorney Councilmember Frate explained numerous newspaper stands are empty, damaged or abandoned. He said many are not located in appropriate locations and are not easily accessible. He expressed his opinion an ordinance will improve the aesthetics of the community and result in less litter. Mr. Paladini explained the city is permitted to regulate the location of a newsstand if it interferes with traffic. He said, however, the city is not able to regulate the content of newsstands. He noted Coral Gables Florida imposed a regulation on news racks requiring certain makes and models; stating, their decision was tater upheld by the 11`h Circuit Court of Appeals. He said, however, Arizona is in the 9` Circuit and a different 11 outcome could result and, even assuming the 9th Circuit would uphold such a decision, enforceability may not be practical in a city the size of Glendale. He said staff could certainly research the practicality of such an ordinance and what would be involved in retrofitting all of the existing newsstands to meet the new requirements. Councilmember Frate explained he is mainly concerned about empty and abandoned newsstands. Mr. Paladini noted other cities have imposed spacing requirements. He explained the key to imposing such an ordinance would be that it not be discretionary. Councilmember Frate asked who at the city tracks the newsstands. Mr. Paladini was unable to answer, noting, however, the city has the ability to remove any newsstand that impedes traffic or results in an unsafe condition. Mr. Paladini confirmed for Mayor Scruggs that a person does not need permission to install a newsstand placed in the city's right-of-way. He pointed out sidewalks are considered a limited public forum for the distribution of printed media. Mayor Scruggs asked how the city would proceed if they want to follow Corral Gables lead. Mr. Paladini explained the Council would have to adopt an ordinance, which would be imposed on all publications, requiring compliance within a certain time period. Mayor Scruggs questioned how they could impose the ordinance when permission is not necessary to install a newsstand. Mr. Paladini said the city would have to educate publishers on the requirements and, after what would probably have to be a significant grace period, cite those who fail to meet the requirements. He reiterated enforcement would be very difficult given the size of the city. Vice Mayor Eggleston asked about newsstands that strictly sell commercial advertising publications. Mr. Paladini noted the Corral Gables ordinance prohibited cardholders or advertisements to be attached to newsstands. He said Glendale could also prohibit cardholders and advertisements as long as it was done on a non-discretionary basis and as long as it was not based on content. Vice Mayor Eggleston asked if a newsstand that is presumed abandoned could be removed. Mr. Paladini explained, while the city could remove the newsstand, it could have a liability issue if a person later makes a claim to the newsstand. Councilmember Goulet said Corral Gables' ordinance was created in an attempt to control the number of racks and he would support Glendale trying to gain such control as well. There was no consensus to proceed with an ordinance. 3. COUNCIL ITEMS OF SPECIAL INTEREST CITY STAFF PRESENTING THIS ITEM: Ed Beasley, City Manager presented this item. This is the quarterly opportunity for City Councilmembers to identify topics of interest they would like the City Manager to research and assess for placement on a future workshop agenda. In the Fall of 2002, the Council approved a procedural guideline allowing for topics of special interest to be identified quarterly. The initial assessment of each item requires staff time. 12 The recommendation was to identify items of special interest that Council wants the City Manager to assess. Mayor Scruggs asked staff to begin a study to determine what will be needed for Council to consider changing the dates of their elections from the Spring cycle to the Fall cycle. Council Comments and Suggestions Vice Mayor Eggleston asked if the discussion concerning payment of defense lawyers for public officials and employees should be held in public session rather than Executive Session. Mr. Paladini explained Item 2B on the Executive Session agenda is intended to provide Council with a summary of the legal opinion provided by outside counsel and to discuss the issue of government payment of criminal defense counsel legal fees. He clarified the legal opinion clearly states the decision as to whether or not to pay for the attorneys fees is one for the Council to make and that any decision would have to be made by vote at a regularly scheduled public meeting. He said it is customary for Council to discuss legal issues in Executive Session prior to bringing them to a public meeting; although Council is entitled to discuss the topic in public. He stated, while an item agendized for a public session can be discussed by majority vote in an Executive Session, he does not know if an item agendized for Executive Session can be discussed during a public session without first being agendized. Councilmember Lieberman commented the building is closing at 4:00 p.m. Mr. Beasley explained, for the next 30 days, employees will be told to leave at 4:00 p.m. to conserve electricity, but this building will remain open. Mr. Paladini clarified, upon further research, Council is permitted to discuss Executive Session items in public session after the Executive Session is over. Mayor Scruggs said there appears to be an expectation that a statement will be made about paying defense attorney fees. She asked Mr. Paladini to explain Item 2B on the Executive Session agenda. Mr. Paladini stated Item 2B is to discuss the legal opinion provided by outside counsel regarding the payment of criminal defense attorney's fees by the city and to answer any questions Council might have. He reiterated any decision, action or direction will have to be done at a public meeting. Councilmember Clark asked if conflict of interest statements have to be completed before the issue can be discussed in public session. Mr. Paladini said statements have been filed by Vice Mayor Eggleston, Councilmember Frate and Councilmember Goulet, stating they acknowledge their conflict of interest, but under 38-508(b), they choose to participate in the discussion. Mr. Paladini confirmed for Councilmember Lieberman that Council could choose to skip the item in Executive Session and to schedule it for open session at a later date. Mayor Scruggs recommended Council recess into Executive Session and return to adjourn the workshop session. The meeting recessed at 4:15 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 5:10 p.m. 13 Mr. Paladini said, after review of the topic, he would advise against discussing the issue of payment of attorney's fees in open session until it has been properly agendized. He reiterated, however, should the issue be discussed in Executive Session, the discussion will be limited to the attorney's providing legal advice to Council and that no action can be taken until the item is property agenized for a regularly scheduled meeting. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 5:15 p.m. 14